Ortho film Choices

Sportera · Sep 18, 2008

Ive been using a fair amount of ADOX 25 ORT, but wondering if there are better alternatives for an Ortho film in 4x5. I see that Ilford makes a Ortho Plus 4x5 film, anyone try it?

keithwms · Sep 18, 2008

O+ is very good stuff but pricey.

epatsellis · Sep 18, 2008

If it's the ortho performance you want, and speed is secondary, the obvious (to me, at least) choice is lith films with either POTA, Soemarko LC-1 or Jim Galli's Rodinal based formula.

Freestyle sells APHS 3 7/8 x 4 7/8 or something around those lines for 4x5 in camera use. if you prefer .007 thickness films, ultrafineonline has a lith film that is pretty good as well, and handles like a dream.

Ian Grant · Sep 19, 2008

The Ilford Ortho Plus film is superb, I used to use the previous versions in quite large quantities for work and it's a very flexible, versatile film. It's vastly superior to using a Graphic arts film.

It's worth looking at the data-sheet for the Ortho Plus, in many respects it gives fine grain, sharpness & overall quality similar to FP4+ but of course with quite a different spectral response. Development is very flexible and it gives very clean negatives for copy work, which was my main use.

Ian

jd callow · Sep 19, 2008

Ian,
How do you rate it and is it still available?

Ian Grant · Sep 19, 2008

Yes it's available still, I rated it at 80 ISO and processed it in PQ Universal, but we wanted higher than normal contrast. You'd need to do a quick speed test for pictorial use but essentially it's almost interchangeable with FP4 half a stop slower and fine in ID-11/D76 etc.

Ian

jd callow · Sep 19, 2008

cool. I have a redheaded niece and nephew who need to be shot on ortho bad.

Jerevan · Sep 19, 2008

Yeah, second the use of Ilford Ortho+, wonderful film! I have an example in my gallery, altough it may not be representative.

Philippe Grunchec · Sep 19, 2008

How does it behave in Pyrocat HD?

Ian Grant · Sep 19, 2008

It will be very similar to FP4 in Pyrocat, although I've not tried it. Over the years I used it in a variety of developers and it's a typical Ilford emulsion, while it's not an Ortho version of FP4 it's typical of the Ilford conventional films, like FP4 & HP5 in the way it behaves in developers. It's a really nice film to use.

Ian

Bounty · Sep 19, 2008

Hi, can you get it in 120 size Karl

Ian Grant · Sep 19, 2008

No it's a sheet film only. It's main use is as a copy film.

Ian

2F/2F · Sep 19, 2008

It's not that pricey compared to their panchromatic films: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...sp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=submit

Sportera · Sep 19, 2008

So I guess a box of Ilford Ortho+ is in my future, thanks for the input.

mrbryanmarshall · Sep 28, 2008

i have use Ilford Ortho plus - extremely good grain, easy to expose with slight latitude. Developing in Ilford Perceptol 1+0 give really good results. It is my fave although thinking of changing to your ADOX due to the cost!

dancqu · Sep 29, 2008

Has any body suggested a cyan filter with a pan film? Dan

hawkwind · Sep 29, 2008

I bought a box of 8x10 Ilford Ortho Plus thinking that it could be used like Adox ORT 25 in a camera. All of Ilford's literature, however, states its use as a copy film. I tried J&C's Ortho Copy film in my camera with dreadful results. Does Ilford's work well in the camera?

Thanks!
--Gary

2F/2F · Sep 29, 2008

dancqu said:
Has any body suggested a cyan filter with a pan film? Dan

Certainly a good option on a fast film if you need a little bit more speed. Cyan is nice, and so is blue. However, if speed is not an issue, or if you just don't like fast films, might as well just use the Ortho to begin with. It does look better than a filtered panchromatic film, IMO. It costs practically the same as Ilford's panchromatic films, so why not?

Ian Grant · Sep 29, 2008

hawkwind said:
I bought a box of 8x10 Ilford Ortho Plus thinking that it could be used like Adox ORT 25 in a camera. All of Ilford's literature, however, states its use as a copy film. I tried J&C's Ortho Copy film in my camera with dreadful results. Does Ilford's work well in the camera?

Thanks!
--Gary

I suggest you read Ilford's literature again as it includes a whole section on processing for different contrasts. While it's bought mainly for copying use it's also an excellent film for normal ortho pictorial use.

Ian

Bounty · Oct 5, 2008

Hi, Any suggestions on the best film for copy work in 120 size Thanks Karl

Ian Grant · Oct 5, 2008

If we ran out of Ilford Ortho film we used FP4 instead it was a fairly reasonable substitute, but it depends what you are copying. Much of my early work was producing copy negatives from old photographs and FP4 in 120 was fine.

Ian

smieglitz · Oct 5, 2008

Ian Grant said:
...while it's not an Ortho version of FP4...

I read somewhere that Ortho Plus was FP4 Plus without the added panchromatic sensitization dye. Wish I could remember the source.

Bounty · Oct 22, 2008

Can you get ilford ortho in 120, bounty b

Ian Grant · Oct 22, 2008

You asked that before on the 19th of September Bounty here in the same thread !!!

No, sheet film sizes only.

Ian

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