Old T-Max 400?

[Dr.Pain-MD]

Hey guys, I recently bought a pro pack of T-Max 400 at a swap meet and I was wondering what I should do for the developing times. I know that Kodak changed the T-Max films sometime and I was hoping that you could tell me if I have the older emulsion. The box has an expiry date of 1995. Two of the rolls inside are wrapped in gold shiny packaging and say TMY-120 T-Max 400 and have an expiry date of 1997. The other three rolls are in a pastel-y yellow packaging and just say TMY-120. I'm guessing that the three rolls are the ones that "belong" to the box they're all in.

Now, I'm going to be developing these myself and I have no idea what to do about the developing times. I have access to D-76, T-Max developer, Rodinal and a Photographer's Formulary developer of some sort. I've only been using D-76 up until now, but I might want to give Rodinal a spin (perhaps stand developing?). What should I do, let's assume I use D-76?

EDIT: These are all in 120 size, forgot to mention that in case it matters.

 

[paul ron]

I develope both exactly the same time n temp, no difference at all.

 

[Jeff Kubach]

Me too!

Jeff

 

[BetterSense]

I just developed a bunch of 1997 TMY. I was looking for a slight pull, and I believe I used 8 minutes in HC110 50:1. The film came out with no obvious defect; base fog looked a bit higher but I didn't measure it.

 

[removed account4]

i regularly use film from this era ... and usually rate it around 100-200
and when i process it in formulary 130 developer ( 1:6-1:10 , 72º 7-8.5 mins )
i get very little fog. i have never used the developers you mention but
old film usually means a little less speed and a little more fog no matter what developer you use.

good luck !
john

 

[MattKing]

The data sheet for the older T-Max 400 is also the data sheet for the current T-Max 100 and is still on Kodak's website. I'd post a link, except I'm not at my own computer.

 

[Dr.Pain-MD]

Thanks for all the replies! When you say pull it, do you mean pull it and develop as normal or pull it and then develop for that pull?

The data sheet for the older T-Max 400 is also the data sheet for the current T-Max 100 and is still on Kodak's website. I'd post a link, except I'm not at my own computer.

Do you mean that the times for the old 400 are the same as that for the new 100?

Me too!

Jeff

I develope both exactly the same time n temp, no difference at all.

Really? You use the same time for the new one as the old one and everything looks OK? Interesting.

 

[MattKing]

This is the link for the data sheet for the old T-Max 400 (and current T-Max 100):

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f4016/f4016.pdf

This is the link for the data sheet for the new, current T-Max 400:

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f4043/f4043.pdf

As the links note, the processing times have been adjusted slightly.

 

[Dr.Pain-MD]

Update: I have shot three of the five rolls to date, two of the '92 and one of the '97. I love the results that I have been getting. I ended up using D-76 diluted 1:1 at 12.5 mins, 30 seconds of initial agitation with 4 inversions every 30 seconds until the end. I like the end product very much! The contrast is good, the tones are pleasant and the negatives are extremely flat which is very nice. I get a fair amount of grain with this, but some of it is almost 20 years expired, so I'm not complaining at all (especially since I like grain in most scenarios). Here is a shot from this weekend: