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I have received a lot of chemicals lately from a old darkroom. Most seems to be in good shape. Some of the chemicals are in the original containers, but have appeared to absorb water and become solid.

One of the jars is about a pound of Silver Nitrate, which ultimately the one I hope is still good.

Are these chemicals ok to use? Is the weight difference going to be enough to matter.
 

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I've never had any dry chemistry long enough to turn into a solid, but I have had various powders "clump up." When that happens, I put the clumps into a zip lock bag and lightly tap with a hammer or the side of a meat tenderizer. Never had any problems from doing this. Wear protective equipment, of course. One thing you want to be mindful of is the anhydrous will, basically, morph into the mono form as it absorbs moisture. This will change the weight needed, if the formula being mixed calls for the anhydrous version. If the powder has changed color from it's original color, then it may be no good.
 

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A pound of Silver Nitrate, sounds like a huge asset in the darkroom.

Good luck, I hope you find a way to use it all.

Cheers.
 

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Are these chemicals ok to use? Is the weight difference going to be enough to matter.
Depends on the chemicals and the exact state they're in. But I've 'inherited' chemicals from my dad which must be at least 35 years old (and probably closer to 45) that were partly stored not so well. Bottles of what must have been sulfite or metabisulfite had absorbed so much moister through their defective corks that they effectively turned into clumps in a water bath. However, there was also:
* A small bottle of hydroquinone - still works like new. Not clumped.
* A bottle of potassium ferricyanide. Clumped pretty badly, but broken up with a small stick, it works like new.
* Some copper sulfate. Same story; clumped, but in perfect condition.
* Potassium bichromate. Obviously also in like-new condition.

Your silver nitrate is likely still perfectly fine.

In general, observe the following:
* Developing agents (hydroquinone, metol etc.) are good unless badly oxidized.
* Most salts are pretty stable unless (badly) deliquesced. E.g. copper sulfate, bichromates etc. as mentioned above last well. Potassium bromide tends to absorb moisture and clump together, and eventually may deliquesce.
* Activators like sodium/potassium carbonate generally last fine (same as 'salts' above).
* Thiosulfates may deteriorate, particularly ammonium thiosulfate. A heavy sulfur odor is bad news; a mild sulfur odor is normal.
* Compounded developers (i.e. powders that are ready to mix with water) may or may not still work. Depends greatly on how they are stored. Check if they are still dry and light/tan colored.
* Fixer and developer concentrates (liquids) turn bad after X years, with X being small for developers (they tend to last maybe a few years max), and somewhat larger for fixer (unopened bottles of fixer concentrate may be fine for a decade). Fixer concentrates: check for sulfuring out; sulfur tends to precipitate out an attach itself to the walls of the container. Developer concentrates oxidize; check color.
* Acids like acetic acid, sulfuric acid (any concentration) or citric acid, tartaric acid (in powder form) generally last indefinitely. Solutions of citric acid will grow bacterial slime.
* Solutions of sulfite or (meta)bisulfite generally deteriorate rapidly. Discard if they're over a few months old (the smell upon opening the bottle will tell a story...)
 
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I think they were hoping I would take it to the waste recycling for them. Which I did with all the liquid stuff. Cost $0. Thanks for the information was more then expected and very appreciated. Have not work with Silver Nitrate before. Getting very excited to see what happens.
 

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You're welcome and have fun!

Keep in mind that the silver nitrate can (and will!) make some very nasty stains indeed. Stains on laminate floors or in clothing may/will outlive you (trust me on this...) Don't get any in your eyes as it can blind you. But with normal precautions and preferably a pair of nitrile gloves you'll do just fine.
 

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Tight fitting safety glasses or googles with no holes, are no the worse Idea, in addition to rubber gloves and a particulate mask (M95), when it comes to Poisons, such as Amidol, or Silver Nitrate in a dark room, including any chemical with "lumps" that must be broken-up or ground.

IMO.

Be Safe, Be Healthy and Godspeed.
 
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