O. B. E.

[tim_walls]

Boy, this thread sure went to hell fast!:munch::munch::munch:

I consider it splendid validation of my ignore list that I only get to see about two posts per page.


Congratulations to whichever Bob it is that is so honoured, anyway - particularly as he's apparently a fellow alumnus (even if from the wrong college... ).

 

[fotch]

Entertainment between the technical posts.

Steve

The APUG version of boxing or mixed martial arts!

 

[cowanw]

What you said is not true, it is only your opinion.

As for 'freedom, the colonies were not enslaved or imprisoned. They objected to being taxed without being represented in the British government. Dodging taxes is hardly akin to being under a tyrant's boot.
History would have been VERY different if there had been no war of independence. The resulting pan-European wars would quite likely have not come out of that. The result would have been a more stable Europe, no Peninsular war, thus not leading on to the the Great War. No Great War would have meant no Versailles Treaty, no crippled Germany, and no seeding ground for the Nazi Party, no WW2 in Europe. Following that it is entirely possible there would have been no Cold war, no wars 'by proxy' (Korea and Vietnam)...

Andy, since this thread went off on its tangent, I have been mulling this over for a couple of days. The peninsular war was an off shoot of the Napoleanic wars secondary to the French revolution. Did the revolution occur due to the Pan European wars of the Mid 18th century. Can you expand on this.
WW1 was closely tied to the rise of German nationalism of the 19th Century, an event again tied to the shaking off of feudal social order.
Both of these events were surely going to occur in some fashion as the middle classes demanded more power.
Sincerely yours
Bill

 

[Kilgallb]

I thought that a KBE can be awarded to anyone but the title 'Sir' can only be used by a commonwealth citizen with a KBE.


Steve.

Actually, thanks to Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Canadians cannot accept the Queens honours. For instance, Conrad Black renounced his Canadian citizenship to become Lord Black.

We replaced all that with the Order of Canada.

 

[MattKing]

Actually, thanks to Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Canadians cannot accept the Queens honours. For instance, Conrad Black renounced his Canadian citizenship to become Lord Black.

We replaced all that with the Order of Canada.

Kilgallb:

Are you sure that this applies to an O.B.E.? I had always understood that there was an important difference between honours, and titles.

For example:

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/07/13/10116416.html

Matt

 

[CRhymer]

Hello Kilgallb,

I think you may find that this predates PET, perhaps as far back as the end of the Great War. Lester Pearson did not allow Roy Thomson to accept a peerage and retain Canadian citizenship.

Cheers,
Clarence

 

[aluk]

This policy originated in 1919, though I believe that one PM suspended it during his term in office.

 

[mhcfires]

This thread is a hoot! Thank yo all for making my day. I was tired, rather bummed out, and I came across this thread. Thanks Ron for starting it, and thank you all for bending it into the pretzel shape it has become.

A very merry unbirthday to you all!

 

[Photo Engineer]

Well, as Mrs. Manson said "my son didn't turn out quite the way I expected."

I might say the same about this thread....

Thanks for giving you something to laugh over.

PE

 

[skyrick]

If we're going to have a tea party, lets at least have it in a country that knows how to make a decent cuppa.

You mean with a 2/1 ratio of milk to tea?
Ice cubes for everyone!

Rick

 

[Terrence Brennan]

When I am addressed as "sir" I always look over my shoulder first to see it there is an officer or an older person behind me.

Whenever I am adressed as "Mr. Brennan" I always look over my shoulder to see if my father or one of my uncles is standing there!

Here is a link about Conrad Black, Lord Black of Crossharbour, from the CBC: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/black_conrad/peerage.html

 

[Photo Engineer]

When our son graduated from Basic Training in the Army, I was permitted to wear my uniform to his graduation as was quite normal being a reserve officer. He was goggle eyed when the gate guards saluted me on and off base, and when everyone stood when I entered the ODs office in his barracks. That was about the last time I wore it. I guess an officer gets more attention than a Knight nowdays.

PE

 

[benjiboy]

I only wish my old Royal Marines uniform still fitted me Ron after more than forty years I can still get it on but I can't fasten it, and nobody salutes a corporal.