O. B. E.

[Photo Engineer]

Former Kodak researcher Bob Hunt was awarded the O. B. E. (Order of the British Empire) on the recent Queen's Birthday list. He is the 3rd Kodak person to achieve this distinction.

Bob was honored here recently at RIT and also joined us at George Eastman House at one of our irregular (but special in this case) lunches.

Bob is noted for his work on the Munsell system among other great works in color.

PE

 

[Sirius Glass]

It is great that at least some of you got recognized.

Steve

 

[jasonhall]

Sounds like a very special day indeed. Congrats to Bob.

 

[AdClem]

In order of precedence:
G.B.E. = 'Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire'
K.B.E. = 'Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire'
C.B.E. = 'Commander of the Order of the British Empire'
O.B.E. = 'Officer of the Order of the British Empire'
M.B.E. = 'Member of the Order [etc.]...'

O.B.E. = 'Other Buggers' Efforts'
M.B.E. = 'My Bloody Efforts'

Compare -
CMG = (Companion of the Order of St. Michael and St. George) Call Me God.
KCMG = (Knight Commander of [etc.] Kindly Call me God
GCMG = God Calls me God.

 

[Sirius Glass]

 

[Photo Engineer]

Well, in addition to those 3, who were all from the Harrow labs, one American recieved a similar award (not sure which one), but he is not allowed to use it in the US.

PE

 

[fotch]

Well, in addition to those 3, who were all from the Harrow labs, one American received a similar award (not sure which one), but he is not allowed to use it in the US.

PE

Hmmm, what do you mean? Use it how? Who stops him?

 

[Ian Grant]

I think it's Knighthoods that can't be used by non British Commonwealth citizens, they are purely Honary rather than actual, although it makes no difference anyway now as they are no longer hereditary.

You don't usually get OBE's MBE's etc if your not a UK or Commonwealth Citizen.

When Cromwell was head of the Commonwealth, well he founded it, 17th C, it was 6 Nations, England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland America & Canada but one county fell out of the net.

Ian

 

[Photo Engineer]

My associate was Sir David at Harrow, but Dave here. Ian is correct, his title can't be used as he was not a Commonwealth citizen, but was used to honor him while he was at Harrow. It was never used in the US.

PE

 

[AdClem]

My associate was Sir David at Harrow, but Dave here. Ian is correct, his title can't be used as he was not a Commonwealth citizen, but was used to honor him while he was at Harrow. It was never used in the US.

PE

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."

 

[eddym]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."

...but some are more equal than others."
--George Orwell

 

[Steve Smith]

My associate was Sir David at Harrow, but Dave here. Ian is correct, his title can't be used as he was not a Commonwealth citizen

I thought that a KBE can be awarded to anyone but the title 'Sir' can only be used by a commonwealth citizen with a KBE.


Steve.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Steve;

You are right, but..

I think the members at Harrow may have done it out of respect, and in Rochester it was not used at all except in a friendly environment where we were congratulating him. That may even have been the case at Harrow. IDK.

PE

 

[Q.G.]

As if it would somehow be possible to prohibit addressing someone as "sir", or being addressed as "sir"?

 

[Alex Bishop-Thorpe]

I suppose it's forbidden to be used in an official sense, like how they wont let me hand out business cards with "Doctor" on them. Oddly, one of my friends is officially a Countess, however that works, but I'm not sure what perks that comes with.

But congratulations are certainly in order, and I'm glad this sort of thing is recognised.

 

[Sirius Glass]

As if it would somehow be possible to prohibit addressing someone as "sir", or being addressed as "sir"?

As a result of so many young people being involved in the military, the use of "sir" is very common. When I am addressed as "sir" I always look over my shoulder first to see it there is an officer or an older person behind me.

Steve

 

[Andy K]

Well, in addition to those 3, who were all from the Harrow labs, one American recieved a similar award (not sure which one), but he is not allowed to use it in the US.

PE

Once we have rescinded the Declaration of Independence that will change.

 

[Q.G.]

Once we have rescinded the Declaration of Independence that will change.

You still live in hope?

 

[Bob F.]

It seems (http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsande...ge/alumni/newssummary/news_25-6-2009-12-48-11) that he obtained his degree in physics at Imperial in 1943: slap-bang in the middle of WWII. Probably has some stories to tell on that subject alone.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Once we have rescinded the Declaration of Independence that will change.

Andy;

If history had not unfolded the way it did, the world would be a drastically different place. Probably a lot worse.

PE

 

[Andy K]

Andy;

If history had not unfolded the way it did, the world would be a drastically different place. Probably a lot worse.

PE

In your opinion.

 

[Sirius Glass]

In your opinion.

Touchy aren't we now? Toss a grenade and then not like the response. Tsk. Tsk.

Steve

 

[Andy K]

Touchy aren't we now? Toss a grenade and then not like the response. Tsk. Tsk.

Steve

I post a light-hearted response, clearly indicated with a smiley, you and Ron have a sense of humour failure, and you reckon I'm the touchy one?!! It isn't me who is touchy. Seems like maybe I hit a nerve and some of you are longing for a return to the mother country. Just imagine it, you could be all grown up and civilised like us, Canada and Australia.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Andy;

I am not touchy about this at all. I think it deserves a laugh. Thats about it. But then what I said is true, nevertheless. You don't make major changes in history without severe side effects. I don't hear anyone weeping over the revolution and us winning our freedom from George III and his government! On the contrary.

PE

 

[Andy K]

Andy;

I am not touchy about this at all. I think it deserves a laugh. Thats about it. But then what I said is true, nevertheless. You don't make major changes in history without severe side effects. I don't hear anyone weeping over the revolution and us winning our freedom from George III and his government! On the contrary.

PE

What you said is not true, it is only your opinion.

As for 'freedom, the colonies were not enslaved or imprisoned. They objected to being taxed without being represented in the British government. Dodging taxes is hardly akin to being under a tyrant's boot.
History would have been VERY different if there had been no war of independence. The resulting pan-European wars would quite likely have not come out of that. The result would have been a more stable Europe, no Peninsular war, thus not leading on to the the Great War. No Great War would have meant no Versailles Treaty, no crippled Germany, and no seeding ground for the Nazi Party, no WW2 in Europe. Following that it is entirely possible there would have been no Cold war, no wars 'by proxy' (Korea and Vietnam)...