NUDES: aesthetic?, erotic?, literal? ... or singularly apathetic?

[StoneNYC]

They also didn't like the un-authentic Italian food either.

haha, oh man, stoopeed americaaans... lol

 

[David Lyga]

it really is stricking to witness how many Italian-Americans (I am half Sardinian) are so (willfully) ignorant of anything authentically Italian. But, maybe with those words I have overstepped my boundary. One is sometimes not supposed to tell the truth if that truth becomes so personally revealing. Yes, indeed, Brian, it truly is appalling.

But, folks, to those possibly offended: Americanism is not a religion. - David Lyga

 

[BrianShaw]

It's not willful... it just happens. When one grows up in NYC or Boston one gets a certain impression of "Italian". One of my good friends is a NY It-Am who married a Roman girl (actually from Rome). They don't eat Italian food in their house often because they just don't see eye-to-eye. It just happens.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

I certainly have no 'prudish' problem with nudity. But I do have a major problem with the American need to sensationalize it and call it ipso facto 'art'.

Like the Europeans, I see nudity as 'no big deal'. I do NOT, however, see it as something beautiful in and of itself like a lot of Americans do who want to indulge their obsession with being able to 'express' themselves. Yes, indeed, the Puritan ethic is pervasive here in the USA, even amongst people who think themselves liberated from it!

Nudity should be an afterthought, not a necessity in order to make a point. Like left-handedness, it should be not 'thought' about. The Europeans have that 'over us' for sure with their far more mature outlook on the human condition.

But what I want more than anything else at this point is to question SuzanneR, and force her to reveal to me, "just how did you get that proper accent on the 'a' of Pieta"? - David Lyga

Your thinking is seriously akimbo, David.

Join the World Naked Bike Ride where we go nude to make a point of vulnerability as cyclists and liberation from the confines of a vehicle. And yes, it is a way to 'express' ones self. And it's not an afterthought.

á = Alt+ 0225 on Windows keyboards

 

[David Lyga]

Poisson, it's a NECESSARY way to express oneself because our culture is so uptight about nudity. it's a desperate attempt to fly sh** in the face of the naysayers. Justified but, nevertheless, still immature. Go beyond that mentality. (I hope you don't hate me for saying this!)

The proper accent for Pieta: Thank you for the Bill Gates workaround, around the (former) Steve Jobs workaholic. I EAT apples. - David Lyga

 

[StoneNYC]

it really is stricking to witness how many Italian-Americans (I am half Sardinian) are so (willfully) ignorant of anything authentically Italian. But, maybe with those words I have overstepped my boundary. One is sometimes not supposed to tell the truth if that truth becomes so personally revealing. Yes, indeed, Brian, it truly is appalling.

But, folks, to those possibly offended: Americanism is not a religion. - David Lyga

Like reminding racist Sicilians that they are part black? (I say black instead African as I'm not sure where the slaves that took over were originally from, forgive my ignorance)

Hehe...


~Stone

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[Diapositivo]

á = Alt+ 0225 on Windows keyboards

That's very good for Spanish but not for Italian or as they say "close, but no cigar" .

In Italian the "e" can have, depending on the word, both the accento grave (as in "è", "caffè", "tè", "narghilè" etc.) and the accento acuto (as in "poiché", "perché", "finché", "senonché" ecc.).

All other vowels can only have the accento grave. ò à ù ì.

Therefore: la "pietà" di Michelangelo (Alt + 0224)

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[Diapositivo]

Middle age sculpture does not indulge into nudity as subsequent sculpture.
Michelangelo is just one of a long string of artists who celebrated Man as a divine creature as it is, its form being his beauty and his glory, be it in the bloom of youth or in the decay of old age. That's all Umanesimo, putting God-created Man at the centre of creation and at the centre of attention and interest, Man as the highest creation of God, and for that reason sacred in itself.

Omnia munda mundis, all is pure for the pure of mind (and consequently all is dirty for the dirty of mind).

Those who only think about sex end up being "puritans".

In "Sacred and Profane Love" by Titian who impersonates the "sacred" love and who impersonates "profane"?
The answer is inside yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_and_Profane_Love

 

[semi-ambivalent]

Only minds are dirty.

I've been to Florence. Oooo, David got back too.

s-a

 

[BrianShaw]

I've been to Las Vegas and the David replica in Caeser's "got hat", too, if you go during the Black Hat Conference!

 

[David Lyga]

Grazie, Diapositivo, per zero, due, due, quattro. Solo quando si comprende tuttle le lingue si può fare questo accento correttamente. Ma, ho provato questo e non succede nulla diversa da quella pagina si sposta! - Davide Lyga

Thank you, Diapositivo, for the zero, two, two, four. Only when one understands all the languages can one make this accent correctly. But, I have tried this and nothing happens other than the page shifts! - David Lyga

 

[David Lyga]

Yes, Stone, there is a DECIDED difference between the mindsets of Sicilians and Sardinians. A truly decided difference!!!

The Sardinian language is VERY different from Italian, so different that Sardinians are taught the Tuscany (purest) dialect of Italian in school and, thus, speak perfect Italian, without regional accent. My grandmother who came through Ellis Island at age nine, in 1919, spoke English without any accent, spoke (Tuscany) Italian perfectly, and, of course, spoke Sardinian (to my grandfather, born 1894!, who did not bother to learn English very well).

I saw all this go into motion perfectly, and in sync, when she took me (and my grandfather) to Italy for my high school graduation in 1968 in order to visit relatives in both Sardinia and Rome. Getting through Rome's Fiumicino Airport customs with about SIX CARTONS of Marlboros was achieved through vociferous arguing with the customs guard and ending up with him getting a few quick pack of cigarettes and letting us though, unimpeded, and without due remorse. - David Lyga

 

[StoneNYC]

Yes, Stone, there is a DECIDED difference between the mindsets of Sicilians and Sardinians. A truly decided difference!!!

The Sardinian language is VERY different from Italian, so different that Sardinians are taught the Tuscany (purest) dialect of Italian in school and, thus, speak perfect Italian, without regional accent. My grandmother who came through Ellis Island at age nine, in 1919, spoke English without any accent, spoke (Tuscany) Italian perfectly, and, of course, spoke Sardinian (to my grandfather, born 1894!, who did not bother to learn English very well).

I saw all this go into motion perfectly, and in sync, when she took me (and my grandfather) to Italy for my high school graduation in 1968 in order to visit relatives in both Sardinia and Rome. Getting through Rome's Fiumicino Airport customs with about SIX CARTONS of Marlboros was achieved through vociferous arguing with the customs guard and ending up with him getting a few quick pack of cigarettes and letting us though, unimpeded, and without due remorse. - David Lyga

haha great story, those Airport agents are a funny bunch, post 9-11, I was allowed to bring my swiss army knife on board, but was forced to dump my newly bought starbucks coffee... go figure... glad to be kept safe from burnt coffee spilling on my lap...

 

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haha great story, those Airport agents are a funny bunch, post 9-11, I was allowed to bring my swiss army knife on board, but was forced to dump my newly bought starbucks coffee... go figure... glad to be kept safe from burnt coffee spilling on my lap...

stone

you obviously don't remember the mcd's law suit ?
maybe your hot coffee was hot, and they were saving you from yourself

 

[StoneNYC]

stone

you obviously don't remember the mcd's law suit ?
maybe your hot coffee was hot, and they were saving you from yourself

I remember the McDonalds law suit, it wasn't that, they said I might have some kind of bomb liquid in my mug, the funny part is, it was a metal thermous style mug, so, after emptying it, they let me on... yet... I could have hid liquid inside the layers of the thermos part ... idiots... AND you missed the point... which is they let me take a swiss army knife onto the plane... AFTER the 9-11 disaster... and they only had plastic knives... kind of dumb ...

 

[JBrunner]

I remember the McDonalds law suit, it wasn't that, they said I might have some kind of bomb liquid in my mug, the funny part is, it was a metal thermous style mug, so, after emptying it, they let me on... yet... I could have hid liquid inside the layers of the thermos part ... idiots... AND you missed the point... which is they let me take a swiss army knife onto the plane... AFTER the 9-11 disaster... and they only had plastic knives... kind of dumb ...

If you are expecting arbitrary government regulation to make some kind of sense, you haven't really been around the block.

 

[semi-ambivalent]

Grazie, Diapositivo, per zero, due, due, quattro. Solo quando si comprende tuttle le lingue si può fare questo accento correttamente. Ma, ho provato questo e non succede nulla diversa da quella pagina si sposta! - Davide Lyga

Thank you, Diapositivo, for the zero, two, two, four. Only when one understands all the languages can one make this accent correctly. But, I have tried this and nothing happens other than the page shifts! - David Lyga

David,

Go to any dictionary-type website and type in the word you're trying to spell. Doesn't matter if it's butchered. The site should select some differing alternate spellings and words and the one you want, with the needed correct accent, should be displayed. Then use your mouse to cut just the letter and paste it into your document.

I have used this method without fail for years; never used a desktop app or widget to select an accented letter. Try www.dictionary.com. The character site already listed is a rich source as well.

s-a

 

[David Lyga]

I know that I am not 'semi-ambivalent' about that response, semi-ambivalent. You have just achieved that which the high-tech crowd was never able to achieve: common sense!

This is the kind of response that I truly cherish: elegant, eloquent, enduring, endearing! How I love the nascent, low tech, uncomplicated daring on your part. And if it happens to be the wrong size or font, simply change it. Even I know how to do that! Again, thank you.

And, by the way, STONE: if you could have heard the arguing at Fiumicino Airport you would have thought that she was HIS boss! - David Lyga

 

[jernejk]

Well, a photographer that I know seems to have a specific vision about nudes. There was an opening of his exhibition recently and it was... well... in style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYbE6NvJSxk

 

[semi-ambivalent]

I know that I am not 'semi-ambivalent' about that response, semi-ambivalent. You have just achieved that which the high-tech crowd was never able to achieve: common sense!

This is the kind of response that I truly cherish: elegant, eloquent, enduring, endearing! How I love the nascent, low tech, uncomplicated daring on your part. And if it happens to be the wrong size or font, simply change it. Even I know how to do that! Again, thank you.

And, by the way, STONE: if you could have heard the arguing at Fiumicino Airport you would have thought that she was HIS boss! - David Lyga

Don't forget you can create a document of your own with a collection of all your needed characters, save it and you can bypass the internet part altogether.

s-a

 

[StoneNYC]

If you are expecting arbitrary government regulation to make some kind of sense, you haven't really been around the block.

Hehe... no no, I wasn't surprised that this happened so much as baffled at the idiocy of it all... and yes this is typical government business I suppose...

 

[StoneNYC]

I know that I am not 'semi-ambivalent' about that response, semi-ambivalent. You have just achieved that which the high-tech crowd was never able to achieve: common sense!

This is the kind of response that I truly cherish: elegant, eloquent, enduring, endearing! How I love the nascent, low tech, uncomplicated daring on your part. And if it happens to be the wrong size or font, simply change it. Even I know how to do that! Again, thank you.

And, by the way, STONE: if you could have heard the arguing at Fiumicino Airport you would have thought that she was HIS boss! - David Lyga

Hehe, well, women... scorned..(or even just a bit annoyed) you know the drill ...

 

[Diapositivo]

Thank you, Diapositivo, for the zero, two, two, four. Only when one understands all the languages can one make this accent correctly. But, I have tried this and nothing happens other than the page shifts! - David Lyga

You have to lock the numeric keypad for "numbers", in my keyboard this is done with the "Bloc Num" which is in the upper-left position of the numeric keypad. You probably also have a LED on the keyboard signalling the block.

After you do that, you keep Alt pressed and you dial the number and you should obtain the character.

On certain keyboards you can also use the numbers in the first row (above the QWERTY row).

 

[David Lyga]

OK, Diapositivo, I did this and get an 'a' with the proper accent (when I finally release the ALT). How do I get the 'e' with the proper accent. Semi-ambivalant's answer is more understandable to me. But I would like to know both ways.

I will do this again: NUM LOCK lit, then: ALT (remains pressed) then 0224. Result? à (this is what I got after releasing the ALT after typing in 0224). - David Lyga

 

[Diapositivo]

You can find the "Alt codes" at this page:

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/timothydrew/altkeys.html

As said, "e" can have both accents in Italian.
è is obtained with Alt - 0232
é is obtained with Alt - 0233

The best thing is to print a table and keep it ready on the (physical) desktop, the alt codes are very fast, faster than making all the copy-and-paste from another page, especially considering that after a while they can be learned by memory.