novel, potential new SLR: any mount becomes interchangeable for any lens.

[David Lyga]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/28/does-reflex-slr-camera-herald-35mm-film-renaissance

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[Chan Tran]

Oh David we have the thread about it sometime ago. I personally think the feature is not needed. Other features of the camera is also rather poor choice like the built in flash. As someone who has a variety of cameras and lenses I have at least a body each for each of the lens mount I have.

 

[Cholentpot]

It's another vaporware. It's also a Soviet design camera re-dressed as far as I've read.

When I see it, I'll believe it.

 

[CMoore]

I do not believe these people will ever sell a camera that resembles what They Have Been Promising for a LONG Time.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/new-reflex-camera.154169/

 

[Theo Sulphate]

One of the consequences of their mount is that lenses are normally mounted in stopped-down mode and that is the natural state the camera is used in for metering and making the exposure. Therefore there is a "reverse depth-of-field" button or lever which is used to open the aperture wide open momentarily for focusing.

 

[Chan Tran]

One of the consequences of their mount is that lenses are normally mounted in stopped-down mode and that is the natural state the camera is used in for metering and making the exposure. Therefore there is a "reverse depth-of-field" button or lever which is used to open the aperture wide open momentarily for focusing.

And I much rather have a camera without any meter but it would be a pain for me to open the aperture up to focus and stop down before releasing the shutter.

 

[David Lyga]

Yes, too good for actual consumption, so goes the fantasy.

Sorry I brought this up again, but did not know it was being re-iterated. And, as Theo Sulfate brought up, it is going to have to be with the inevitable 'stop down' mode. But, what probably guarantees failure is the price: About 400 pounds sterling, which equates to over USD 500. Too much when you factor in the plethora of good used stuff readily available. - David Lyga

 

[Theo Sulphate]

What if they had chosen a much simpler, even primitive, design:

* no electronics at all
* M42 mount only
* no instant-return mirror (to simplify the synchronization of the shutter mechanism)
* a shutter similar to that of a Speed Graphic (a cloth with multiple slits for different speeds)
* knob wind of the shutter which first lowers the mirror - which acts as a "shutter blind" while the slits travel past the film gate
* keep the interchangeable film back, which I think is a good idea

Sure, that's more primitive than anything available today, but it does have the redeeming feature of the interchangeable back and it would be a new, simple, less expensive design.

 

[AgX]

It's another vaporware. It's also a Soviet design camera re-dressed as far as I've read.

When I see it, I'll believe it.

You are refering to another project, the Elbaflex. A rebadged Kiev. To be made from old stock parts or re-made parts. Offered by a fake company.

 

[M-88]

I do not believe these people will ever sell a camera that resembles what They Have Been Promising for a LONG Time.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/new-reflex-camera.154169/

Exactly. Been far too long with far too little success.

 

[quixotic]

I'd consider getting one. I really like the idea of being able to switch from b&w to color without having to drag along another body.

 

[CMoore]

Exactly. Been far too long with far too little success.

These guys, especially that middle man from Japan that re-badges film with his "Name" on it, were REALLY pushing this camera as "The Future Of Film"...!!
When was the last time those guys showed their face(s) in public.?
Yesterday
Last Week
Last Year
.......Every few months they dribble out something about needing more time, and that they are rushing some kind of awesome strap to their "supporters".

 

[Theo Sulphate]

In 1940, from initial design on paper to actual flying aircraft, it took North American Aviation about five months to produce the P-51.

However, NAA knew what they were doing.

 

[CMoore]

In 1940, from initial design on paper to actual flying aircraft, it took North American Aviation about five months to produce the P-51.

However, NAA knew what they were doing.

 

[M-88]

These guys, especially that middle man from Japan that re-badges film with his "Name" on it, were REALLY pushing this camera as "The Future Of Film"...!!
When was the last time those guys showed their face(s) in public.?
Yesterday
Last Week
Last Year
.......Every few months they dribble out something about needing more time, and that they are rushing some kind of awesome strap to their "supporters".

I mean, it has some good ideas behind it - interchangeable backs and lens mount on 35 mm system? who could ask for more? But in reality at the price tag (along with 1 extra back and 1 extra lens mount) I could buy a high end, not so old, much more functional film camera along with every lens that an average man needs. And 35 mm cams aren't that heavy so why not buy a backup body to shove a different kind of film into it.

 

[M-88]

I'd consider getting one. I really like the idea of being able to switch from b&w to color without having to drag along another body.

If you ask me, the only true advantage of this camera (ha it reached production) would be that it's actually a newly manufcture item. Because how many 35 mm are still being manufactured? Three? Four? And how many are SLR? One?

 

[AgX]

I'd consider getting one. I really like the idea of being able to switch from b&w to color without having to drag along another body.

There are several 35mm cameras that allow such. So if you are willing to employ a used camera you got choices.

 

[Cholentpot]

In 1940, from initial design on paper to actual flying aircraft, it took North American Aviation about five months to produce the P-51.

However, NAA knew what they were doing.

I'd trade my Nikon gear for a P-51.

 

[Chan Tran]

I mean, it has some good ideas behind it - interchangeable backs and lens mount on 35 mm system? who could ask for more? But in reality at the price tag (along with 1 extra back and 1 extra lens mount) I could buy a high end, not so old, much more functional film camera along with every lens that an average man needs. And 35 mm cams aren't that heavy so why not buy a backup body to shove a different kind of film into it.

I ask for something like the Nikon F2. But at any rate right now there are plenty of good used 35mm SLR looking for films. So it's film is needed not cameras.

 

[guangong]

A camera already exists that takes almost every other slr lens: Alpa.

 

[etn]

I'd trade my Nikon gear for a P-51.

Your lifetime needs of developer/fixer will probably be less expensive than just one full tank of the Mustang
But I agree, I too would trade my Nikon (and possibly my Hasselblad too) for a P-51!!

 

[etn]

I think the issue with creating a new camera is, to which segment of the market do you aim it for?
- cheap (e.g. $100~200): will not work in my opinion, as producing a camera with tight enough tolerances with a quality at least equal to existing used cameras cannot be achieved at this price point;
- mid range: possibly the most viable economically, but finding the sweet spot of price and features will be tough (particularly, as mentioned by many in this thread, given the competition of a saturated second hand market)
- high end: this is a niche market (how many Leica MPs or Nikoc F6 are sold each year?) this will never cover development costs.

I think they might be more successful in the medium format market.

 

[M-88]

Your lifetime needs of developer/fixer will probably be less expensive than just one full tank of the Mustang
But I agree, I too would trade my Nikon (and possibly my Hasselblad too) for a P-51!!

You guys are shooting too hugh. Hawker Hurricane would be enough for me

 

[4season]

Too ambitious a project and not enough money or experience? You don't have to take apart too many cameras to realize that there's plenty of stuff there which can't readily be 3D printed, CNC machined, replaced with an Arduino or purchased off the shelf.

 

[quixotic]

There are several 35mm cameras that allow such. So if you are willing to employ a used camera you got choices.

I'm familiar with the Rollei (they're very rare, though, and they look kinda heavy) Are there others? I'd need something that can take a shift lens.