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StoneNYC said:
I almost feel like its the nature of the type of film that beat it... Because you don't shoot models with it (as far as I understand its still more of a landscape film) so you usually have a tripod anyway, so why use a grainier (even if it wasn't bad) film when you can just use Velvia or Provia 100f?

That's probably why it didn't last, it was the application that killed it. If Astia had stuck around and there were an Astia400, that would probably have sold more as its good for skin tones (I'm told Astia was best for skin so in this example Astia400 would be good for skin too).
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Many years ago I regularly shot the Provia 100 (no 'F') with a pale amber filter; for people photography (which was my interest so many years ago) I like the effect better with a bit of warmth added.

There was a thread here on APUG last year that bemoaned the odd colour of 400X in artificial light, a sort of "Instagram-look". I remember viewing the pics and thinking they looked very antique by the palette alone. Who posted that thread??
 
Poisson Du Jour said:
Many years ago I regularly shot the Provia 100 (no 'F') with a pale amber filter; for people photography (which was my interest so many years ago) I like the effect better with a bit of warmth added.

There was a thread here on APUG last year that bemoaned the odd colour of 400X in artificial light, a sort of "Instagram-look". I remember viewing the pics and thinking they looked very antique by the palette alone. Who posted that thread??
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Filters can do wonders,

I have seen many Kodachrome images with false skin tones, but then recently came upon two random in a box of old enlarger stuff that is certainly Kodachrome but is indeed really beautiful and accurate skin tones. This was taken by my best friends grandfather presumably, he was an amateur but you could tell he really took his time and owned the right equipment for the job. Sadly his house was on a lake and his graflock 4x5 and all his ektachrome 4x5 and Tri-x 4x5's were all covered in mold, this was mold beyond the normal paranoid that I get, like, visibly growing on the equipment, sad how some in old age let their lives go, it's what killed him, living in the mold filled house, I was only there about 30 minutes and already was having trouble breathing.

Anyway, guess I'll have to enjoy this last brick I have and move on :smile:


~Stone | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Athiril said:
I work in a lab, with dip and dunk E-6. I also participate in group film orders from B&H.

400X is one of the rarest films to come here for processing, and on group orders from B&H also. We get more Kodak E-6 still than 400X.

Same with Neopan 400 for B&W.
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Personally, I consider 100 speed film more 'specialist' and 400 a 'cover all bases' solution for a multitude of lighting conditions - which the wide eyed consumer tends to shoot in.
But as others have suggested, it probably has a lot to do with the weather and also the fact that 'consumers', judging by Flickr again, only ever shoot wide open! In which case 100, in daylight, will probably suffice in most places. The idea that 'midday isn't the best time to make pictures' is so ingrained with me, that I probably have no idea what speed/why/or how average Joe consumer shoots film at all!

You can start to understand how complicated the idea of demographics is in this day and age.
 
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400X is around $27 a roll (120) /146 5 roll ProPack here in Australia. Not much more expensive than Velvia but the least popular of any of Fuji's 'chromes.
 
I really only shoot transparency in 35mm for projection. B&W and color print in 120 and 4x5. I do shoot print film in 35mm too when lighter quicker handling cameras, zoom lenses or faster lenses than I have in 120 are needed.

I'm probably going to pick up some 400X in 120 but other than the fact I won't be able to layer I really don't know why!
 
Roger Cole said:
I really only shoot transparency in 35mm for projection. B&W and color print in 120 and 4x5. I do shoot print film in 35mm too when lighter quicker handling cameras, zoom lenses or faster lenses than I have in 120 are needed.

I'm probably going to pick up some 400X in 120 but other than the fact I won't be able to layer I really don't know why!
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I just want to see my chromes on a light box in 4x5...I could stare for hours...

Also Roger I picked up an Agfa super slide projector at a good will but it was missing the tray, I think I remember hearing you discuss them, do you have any extra trays? It's a line tray instead of a circular one as far as I can tell.

And WOW Australia film prices are just silly, I would probably quit film at those prices, that's 5 times the price of some films here... :sad:



~Stone | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk
 
StoneNYC said:
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And WOW Australia film prices are just silly, I would probably quit film at those prices, that's 5 times the price of some films here... :sad:
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Yes indeed. It's the prime reason shoppers desert bricks and mortar retail for online. All my film is bought on eBay from a dealer buying wholesale from Fujifilm Australia — no overheads, GST, staff costs, mark-up...whatever else is summarily tacked on by retailers that makes the price so much a disincentive for people to use and enjoy film (especially students who are turned off the cost and migrate without second thought to digital).
 
StoneNYC said:
I just want to see my chromes on a light box in 4x5...I could stare for hours...

Also Roger I picked up an Agfa super slide projector at a good will but it was missing the tray, I think I remember hearing you discuss them, do you have any extra trays? It's a line tray instead of a circular one as far as I can tell.

And WOW Australia film prices are just silly, I would probably quit film at those prices, that's 5 times the price of some films here... :sad:



~Stone | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk
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Nope, no spare trays. I had an old...forget the brand, but a projector I had in high school when I couldn't afford a Kodak, that used straight trays, but it's long gone or buried in my parents' basement in TN. I have a Medalist projector and some carousel trays, but I use those. I don't have a medium format projector. I think "super slides" where slides nearly 2" square that were shot on medium format and mounted in mounts with thin margins for projection in 35mm projectors. I've never seen one or used them, but I would get a medium format projector IF the film weren't going away. 6x6 or even 6x4.5 slides have to be awesome (6x7 even more so, but then the projector price and rarity goes up a great deal.)
 
Roger Cole said:
Nope, no spare trays. I had an old...forget the brand, but a projector I had in high school when I couldn't afford a Kodak, that used straight trays, but it's long gone or buried in my parents' basement in TN. I have a Medalist projector and some carousel trays, but I use those. I don't have a medium format projector. I think "super slides" where slides nearly 2" square that were shot on medium format and mounted in mounts with thin margins for projection in 35mm projectors. I've never seen one or used them, but I would get a medium format projector IF the film weren't going away. 6x6 or even 6x4.5 slides have to be awesome (6x7 even more so, but then the projector price and rarity goes up a great deal.)
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Why do you say MF is "going away"?

I have a bunch of 6x6 slide mounts but I'm hesitant to cut the 6x7 images since they all look better in that ratio than in 6x6 :sad:

Oh well, I'll keep looking :smile:


~Stone | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk
 
You need a 6x4.5 back for your RB67 - and some 6x4.5 mounts.
 
StoneNYC said:
Why do you say MF is "going away"?

I have a bunch of 6x6 slide mounts but I'm hesitant to cut the 6x7 images since they all look better in that ratio than in 6x6 :sad:

Oh well, I'll keep looking :smile:


~Stone | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk
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I mean that E6 film in general is clearly on its way out, so I am reluctant to spend money on a medium format projector and slide mounts at this stage. I don't mean that 120 black and white or color neg are (yet for color neg) in any danger of being gone very soon.
 
We've been hearing "E6 is dead!" for like the last 10 years now. Personally I think it's an incredibly beautiful medium and more people should be using it for color. I shoot it in every format I use, along with c-41, and b/w.
 
Think what you like but we are now down to three currently produced emulsions or, more accurately, TWO films, one of which comes in two speeds - Velvia 50 and 100 and Provia 100.

In 2010 when I was doing my "farewell to Kodachrome" I moved on to Astia, which was then canceled. Then I moved to E100G, then Kodak quit making all E6 films. Now Fuji has dropped Provia 400X.

It takes a monumental effort at whistling past the graveyard not to acknowledge that E6 has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
 
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Roger Cole said:
Think what you like but we are now down to three currently produced emulsions or, more accurately, TWO films, one of which comes in two speeds - Velvia 50 and 100 and Provia 100.

In 2010 when I was doing my "farewell to Kodachrome" I moved on to Astia, which was then canceled. Then I moved to E100G, the Kodak quit making all E6 films. Now Fuji has dropped Provia 400X.

It takes a monumental effort at whistling past the graveyard not to acknowledge that E6 has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
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Not to mention the enormous increases in price for E6 film during all those years.
 
clayne said:
We've been hearing "E6 is dead!" for like the last 10 years now. Personally I think it's an incredibly beautiful medium and more people should be using it for color. I shoot it in every format I use, along with c-41, and b/w.
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I had irrational friends telling me that 'digital is here! Film will be dead soon!' in 1997! I don't remember seeing any digital camera in 1997, but my sister bought one in 2000. Unfortunately, film greatly outlived a couple of those friends who did not heed my advice to dabble in photography or some stimulating art pursuit instead of mischief. Ultiimately...
 
Roger Cole said:
It takes a monumental effort at whistling past the graveyard not to acknowledge that E6 has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
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Best word picture of the month winner right there...

:cool:

Ken
 
Yes, but remember we are the ones touting film SUPPORT, so if you don't want to support it, at least don't spread the idea of it being dead, because some amateur comes along, and reads that, and never bothers, it helps to keep it going if you keep the dream alive.

Anyway I'm going to continue to shoot it as long as it's around and enjoy it all the same, because it's just AMAZING stuff.
 
What, film in general or E6?

Truth is, I generally prefer prints and print film, but I've been shooting mostly slides the past couple of years when I shoot color because I DO like to project them and I figure I'd best do it while I can.
 
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