That's a fact!
After this chat you’ll never forget the MD-4 remove/replace protocol!
....Any others have the rewind capability? My MD11/12/15 I think at least one of them has rewind as part of its feature set.
No. None of those will rewind the film. They all have a little slide thingy that pushes the rewind release button on the bottom of the camera body (because, obviously, the button is inaccessable when the MD is mounted) but one still must rewind manually.
That bring me the question that is there a camera with power rewind and has removable motor drive and doesn't have the hole? Any brands? I know the F2 and F3 both have the hole. The F, the motor drive is the whole back. I wonder about the Canon F1 (any version) and the Pentax LX? I think none of the Olympus OM has power rewind.
No. None of those will rewind the film. They all have a little slide thingy that pushes the rewind release button on the bottom of the camera body (because, obviously, the button is inaccessable when the MD is mounted) but one still must rewind manually.
Unless the (rewind) motor is built into the body, I don't see how an add-on accessory motor drive could possibly power rewind the film without there being a hole in the bottom of the camera for a shaft to engage the film spool inside the film cartridge. The shaft has to retract so to allow the film to be loaded and unloaded - it cannot just be there. I guess one could posit a complex mechanism with gears and levers and all manner of mechanical clap-trap that could accomplish the task but it seems crazy and uneconomical to do it that way.
Ok. I may have been thinking about the F4S I have.
That is what I thought and I was surprised by the OP comment in his first post that such a design was horrible and bordering on dumb. Back when I bought the F2AS in 1977 I was kind of proud of the hole because my camera could do power rewind (oh well I never had the MD-2 to do that).
Unless the (rewind) motor is built into the body, I don't see how an add-on accessory motor drive could possibly power rewind the film without there being a hole in the bottom of the camera for a shaft to engage the film spool inside the film cartridge. The shaft has to retract so to allow the film to be loaded and unloaded - it cannot just be there. I guess one could posit a complex mechanism with gears and levers and all manner of mechanical clap-trap that could accomplish the task but it seems crazy and uneconomical to do it that way.
Leica R8 and R9 do.
Crazy shizzle! How do they do it?
Interesting…a review at JCH says some early ones scratched film!
https://www.japancamerahunter.com/2022/02/camera-geekery-leica-r8/
A Canon Rebel 2000 starts out by winding the film to the end, and then winds it back into the cassette - each frame rewound immediately after it is exposed.
Does that count?
Actually, I often wondered why the pro cameras aimed at photojournalists didn't work that way.
Crazy shizzle! How do they do it?
Interesting…a review at JCH says some early ones scratched film!
https://www.japancamerahunter.com/2022/02/camera-geekery-leica-r8/
For what it's worth, at least twice that I can remember, I took the drive off midway through a roll and kept on using the camera forgetting to replace the little screw in cover. I don't recall film being damaged as the film cassette sort of neatly covers the whole hole; great design foresight.
I own an F3 with the motor,I have to admit I hadn't even thought of taking the motor off and winding the camera myself until about six months ago. They were always paired together, but the motor makes it heavy and I'm not shooting anything fast moving anyway.
But this is for sure.... the F3 with the motor is the coolest sounding camera ever on the market. It sounds like a real camera should, whatever that means.
Oh yeah I totally understand it's reason for being there. I wasn't sure about the F2. Any others have the rewind capability? My MD11/12/15 I think at least one of them has rewind as part of its feature set. I can't check as I'm not home lol
None of those three can rewind the film. The MD-11 and MD-12 were made for the FM/FE series of cameras, and the MD-15 was built for the FA. None of those cameras have a hole in the base for a rewind motor to engage the film cassette.
As others have said, your film will *probably* be entirely okay, and if you'd just loaded it before realizing the cap wasn't on the body and hadn't shot any frames, only the first shot or two on the roll would have any possibility of being affected anyway--the felt light trap across the cassette's aperture will keep light from exposing film that hasn't been extracted from the cassette yet. Not only that, the film itself is pretty opaque and resistant to light coming passing entirely through it. I've had some accidents where the film closest to where the light could get at it other than through the lens was exposed, but the film that was rolled up under that film (other than where the sprocket holes let light through) was entirely or completely unexposed, so long as the accidental exposure to light was brief and of low intensity.
ADDENDUM: Sorry, didn't realize there was a Page 2 already, and someone had already answered the question about the MDs you have. I once did the same thing and pulled my MD-4 off with a partly exposed roll of film in, briefly and in interior lighting, and I didn't notice any ill effects from it. Not sure what would have happened if I'd been in bright sunlight or left it off for a long period, however.
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