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Robin Guymer

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I eBay purchased an old beat up F2 for less than a carton of beer. It was jammed, the Finder dismantled, shutter crinkled, rusty, dusty, no power to the finder - basically a basket case. So a good project to see if I could get it working again, which I did and successfully. Unable to find much info on the Net beforehand, I have documented how I went about this and what repairs I undertook so that other DIY camera collectors will see that this is not such a daunting job. My hope is that other collectors will contribute, suggest, guide and correct, so that these fantastic old cameras can keep on keeping on long after the few remaining experienced service people have closed shop.

I will add some more to this thread as there is the DP-1 Finder to put back together and the advance lever to extend a new end onto. Looking forward to reading future contributions from other APUG members.
Robin.
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Nikon F2 Front End Removal & Reinstall
Check the photos as they have information written on them as well.
Top Plate Removal - Only the Film Advance Side required
A/ Remove the DP- Finder

B/ On the film advance side carefully pull back the leatherette till the first 2 screws can be accessed. I use a partially blunt craft knife to carefully cut away the glue. On the rewind side completely remove the leatherette.
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C/ Remove the 4 screws on the Lens Mount cover and lift off.

D/ Remove the top circular cover on the film advance lever by placing a piece of soft rubber on it, then holding the lever against the camera, press down hard on the lever circle at the same time turning anti clockwise. The small round cover should now spin off. My black F2 has 2 pin holes for a lens tool but the silver one does not so the method above does work.

Remove the 4 screws then the round plate. Use a small tool to push the round lock nut anti clockwise. If you press down on the camera body at the same time this may reduce the friction and help to spin it off.

E/ Down inside the shutter button is another circular nut. Either use very thin pointy pliers or like a single prong dentist pick to spin the nut anti clockwise. Lift out the nut & spring and lift off the shutter lock dial and the half cone under it.

F/ Three very small fine screws hold the speed dial in place. Careful to use a good fitting screw driver and unscrew them but only enough so the speed dial lifts off.

G/ Remove the single rear screw on the cover plate and it can be carefully prised off.
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Front End & Mirror Box Removal
A/ Lift up the foam at the back of the Mirror Box and remove the two screws.

B/ Remove two screws under the leatherette on the film advance side and the single screw on the rewind side.

C/ Remove four screws around the lens mount.

D/ With some careful prising the front end and Mirror box should be carefully pulled out of the camera body. Take note of the levers that lock into each other on the advance side of the mirror box and camera body.

There are only two screws on top that attach the Mirror Box to the Front end lens mount.
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Reinstalling the Front into the Camera Body
A/ Attach the Mirror Box to the Front lens mount with the two screws.

B/ Check the boomerang lever on the Timer is set in the middle position.

C/ Check the connecting lever just below the speed dial is out and parallel forward so it can accept the corresponding lever on the Mirror Box which needs to slip between it and the body.

D/ Ease the Front onto the camera body. It may need a jiggle but it should drop into place.

E/ Replace a few screws. Then temporarily attach the film advance lever so you can crank a few advances and fire off the shutter. Test it with different speeds by turning the speed dial. Also test the Timer is working.

F/ If the camera jams it means a lever somewhere was not in the right position. Remove the bottom panel and trip the shutter with a toothpick on the lever shown in the photo. Then check that all the levers in the camera body and on the side of the Mirror Box are moving freely. Realign them and try installing again. It may take a couple of goes but it will drop into place when all the levers are lined up. After all someone on the production line could do this first time every time back in ’72.
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Repairs I Undertook whilst apart
Wiring Short Circuit

There was a short at the terminals for the Finder but the micrometer showed clean power at all the terminals on the bottom. I pulled the wires from the camera body and checked for cracks and shorts to the body. I cleaned all the terminals and checked for a clean connection. The underneath terminal of the battery compartment was broken and floating around. This was glued in place and some Tarzan tape placed over to help strengthen it.

I eventually found that the connector under the finder connection on the rewind side was touching the Mirror Box. Adjusting this fixed the short circuit and I had a clean 3v getting through to the Finder.
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Dampener on Mirror Shock Absorber
On the rewind side of the Mirror Box there is a shock absorber spring. From the marks left it looked like there used to be a foam pad under the spring. I fitted a piece of light seal foam and this made a big difference to the metallic ping sound when the camera was fired.
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C L A
Forget the Adjust part (I know not what I do) but the Clean and Lube was essential to getting this old camera working again. Using toothpicks, cotton buds and various condiments I cleaned up the moving parts and then Lubed them with droplets of the old Singer Sewing Machine oil from the toothpick.

Shutter Curtain Slider
At the back of the Mirror Box are two strips of felt that sit against the top and bottom of the shutter curtain. The top felt was damaged and this had caused the shutter curtain to snag it and then crinkle (by previous owner). I removed the bad felt and replaced it with new.

Timer
Of course this was not working. Made the mistake of spraying it with Dry PTFE. This did get it running freely but it would not lock in position. Then made the mistake of trying to bend the small levers into the right position to get it to work. Took me a few hours to get the lever back into the original position. Finally figured out how it all worked under a magnifier. The locking bar does not like any lubricant as it maybe grabs the shaft by friction. So a few drops of lighter fluid got rid of any oil and the small lever started to grab the shaft and lock it in position. Lets call this the friction bar and this grabs the shaft in the first instance as the external arm is in the red line zone. Then other locks seem to work with this to catch the timer at the 2 to 10 second intervals.

It pays to check you have the timer working perfectly before putting the camera back together and check it in different camera positions like vertical and inverted etc as gravity can let it work one way but not work another if the friction lock is a bit iffy.
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Light Seals & Bumpers & Clean
The rear door light seals were removed - well there was only the remnant dust actually. Replaced with new. The upper mirror bumper and side foams were replaced. The mirror came up like new using a digital APS-C sensor swab and carefully picking out the dust spots under a magnifier brought the split prism glass into quite an acceptable state.

Final Result
Back together with the leatherette glued back on, the old black beast still looks pretty rough (I’ll keep it that way as it shows it’s got some history) but mechanically it now feels better than the collectable silver one. A film test to follow to see how the shutter speeds are holding up but they all seem pretty good. It has been a fun project with a great outcome. Hope you’ve gained some insight and use it to kick an old F2 back into life. Enjoy.
 

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definitely brain surgery. nice job!
 
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Broken Advance Lever Repair
The Advance Lever plastic cap had broken off at the last fixing point. A simple way to repair these (and other plastic broken parts) is to treat the break like your adding concrete to concrete. Clean up the broken end by scratching up the surface. Drill two small holes either side of the fixing screw and epoxy glue in a curved piece of wire. Make up the formwork with tape allowing enough room to then pour in the epoxy glue. Use a toothpick to vibrate it into position so there are no air pockets. Leave for 48 hours then strip the formwork, sand back to the correct shape, dip in some enamel paint wiping off the drips and hang to dry. That should save you some money instead of trying to find a replacement part. I made this one a bit long but it feels nice to use.
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Nikon F2 Wiring Troubleshooting
The attached image shows there are three areas where there could be connection issues. 1/ The battery compartment. 2/ The cocking arm points connection. 3/ The Finder points connection. These can be tested with a micrometer starting from the battery compartment. If after cleaning and checking of all the points connections the fault persists, then the electrical leakage can be caused by crushed wires in body panels, disintegrating wiring insulation or faulty solder joints. Removing the Front face is then the only way to access the problem.
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You should post some more before/after photos! I'd like to see more of the finished product.

You're right that repair of the F2 isn't such a daunting job, but all of these well-documented photos were a huge help. Infinitely more useful than any repair manual. What I like most about this camera are the lack of electronics. Everything that happens has a lever or gear that causes it. Printed circuit boards are great, but not when trying to diagnose a malfunctioning camera!
 

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Fabulous Pics and Text of the F2.!
I work on Guitar Amps and also Lever Action Rifles and Single Action Revolvers.
One thing that is great about Those Two Hobbies is.....The LARGE AMOUNT of Literature, Books, Videos, ans Human Beings that are available for instruction.
Even though both of my hobbies represent "Obsolete" and "Dead Technology"....Clones are still being made in Huge Numbers. I can buy parts for just about any Rifle or Revolver i want.
Vacuum Tubes are Obsolete, but the Guitar/Audio worlds offer enough of a Niche Market that tubes are still being made, and they have actually gotten a bit better (the modern day tubes) in the last 10 years.
Guitar CIRCUITS can be Unique and even Proprietary...but most all of the parts are Very Standard. If i buy a single pole single throw switch in 2017, it will fit perfectly, right into, a Fender Bassman that was made in 1963.
If a Marshall Plexi from 1968, loses a tubes socket, i can rob a tube socket from a Two Rock that was made in 2015, and it will be an exact replacement. A 1 Watt resistor from a 1958 Valco will work in a Swart Amp that was made 3 Months ago.
Etc etc etc.
With Very Few exceptions you could never do that with an SLR. The parts did not even make it from one model to the next. A tremolo bug in a 1967 Fender will work in a Fender from 1987. But parts from a Nikon F2 do not work in a Nikon F3. Its kind of a shame that happened. The camera makers did not standardize anything. One new model made the previous model obsolete. :sad:
 

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I followed this guide to replace the wire going from the battery compartment to the switch and everything was working fine but now a few dozen shutter releases later the mirror movement started to become very slow. Any ideas or input welcome.
 
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I followed this guide to replace the wire going from the battery compartment to the switch and everything was working fine but now a few dozens shutter releases later the mirror move started to become very slow. Any ideas or input welcome.
You might try taking the front face off again and making sure everything is properly aligned. The difficult part is getting everything lined up properly in the mechanisms opposite the self timer. it took me two rounds of thinking I had it aligned and then taking it apart again before everything worked as it should.
 
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I followed this guide to replace the wire going from the battery compartment to the switch and everything was working fine but now a few dozens shutter releases later the mirror move started to become very slow. Any ideas or input welcome.
I agree with Sam that there may not be something lined up. Check the boomerang on the timer lines up with the pole in the body and also the little side lever at the top of the mirror box. These are on the photos in earlier posts. But seeing as you have already done a few dozen shutter releases makes me wonder if the mechanisms on the mirror box have become sticky and need a clean and lube. I found that if things weren't lined up upon insertion of the mirror box, then it would not even do one shutter release, let alone a few dozen.
 

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I think I made it work again. After my post I gave it another try and removed the mirror box from the front panel. I triggered the mechanism on the detached mirror box and it indeed felt a little bit sluggish so I started to put tiny drops of oil on all the pivoting points and lubed some parts of the mechanism where I could spot old grease. After putting everything back together it seems to work fine now and the mirror feels snappy. I'll wait a few more days with some shutter triggers to see if it persists.
 

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I think I made it work again. After my post I gave it another try and removed the mirror box from the front panel. I triggered the mechanism on the detached mirror box and it indeed felt a little bit sluggish so I started to put tiny drops of oil on all the pivoting points and lubed some parts of the mechanism where I could spot old grease. After putting everything back together it seems to work fine now and the mirror feels snappy. I'll wait a few more days with some shutter triggers to see if it persists.
Glad to hear that worked! And it was just the very simple matter of taking out the mirror box.
 
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Reinstall Note
Just to add a note and photo on reinstalling the front panel with the mirror box attached. I have been trying to service my other silver Nikon F2 which I thought was a good collectable. But on opening it up I found it had been serviced by a technician who managed to put a spring in the wrong position causing advancing lock up, leave out a couple of screws and de-thread a connection screw on the lens mount. It also had a lot more wear on the connections than in my black beat up F2. I now realise that the black one is a gem as it had never been serviced from new, probably not used much, just neglected in the weather (recently used it for some family shots that turned out stunning with FP4 125 @ 250).
Tips on reinstalling the front panel with Mirror box attached.
  1. You may need to press down the black trigger arm on the face panel so it slips below the silver trigger button. Use a very thin wire or feeler gauge blade then the face panel will snap into position.
  2. Check the boomerang arm on the timer is upright.
  3. Check for wear on the connection between the mirror box and trigger arm of the face panel. On my silver F2 I found this was notched from use and filing it flat and a very slight bend adjustment got it lined up and working better.
  4. If the slow timer assembly is working then don't mess with it. Otherwise welcome to your nightmare!
Self servicing a Nikon F2 is like buying cryptocurrency - "don't do it unless your prepared to loose the lot". However they are a superb piece of engineering (probably the best camera ever built ) and with a lot of care and time it is not an impossible task for a really patient handy person.
FYI - I have added a couple of Resource posts about fixing Nikon F2 Double Winding and Winding Lock Up and a fisherman's way to replace the Speed Indicator String inside a DP-1 Finder.
Robin
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Robert, I see you've removed the mirror lock lever on the black F2 (and point out that it is unnecessary to do for the repairs). I'm trying to remove that lever to move it from a parts F2 to a user F2 that's missing it, and I can't work out how it's connected. I see in your photo that there's nothing behind the black plastic cap on the aperture preview button. Does the whole lever merely pry off? I've looked in the repair manual and cannot work out exactly how it's attached.
 
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Robert, I see you've removed the mirror lock lever on the black F2 (and point out that it is unnecessary to do for the repairs). I'm trying to remove that lever to move it from a parts F2 to a user F2 that's missing it, and I can't work out how it's connected. I see in your photo that there's nothing behind the black plastic cap on the aperture preview button. Does the whole lever merely pry off? I've looked in the repair manual and cannot work out exactly how it's attached.

There is no need to remove the plastic centre (like I stupidly did) Just unscrew the stop down button anticlockwise by holding it tight with something that won't scratch it. Push down on the lever at the same time as it is pushed out by two springs and this will take the pressure off the middle button. Just a good tip is to put the camera in a tray when you do this as two very small ball bearings will jump out and their associated springs that provide the locking for the lever. Good luck.
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I dampened the spring without too much trouble. You dont need to take out the mirror box, but you need to unscew the two screws under the foam at the rear so you can pull out just enough to remove the two screws at the top to attaching the face plate to the mirror box.
Took a few goes to get the levers to line up to refit the face plate.
No more ping, although still a bit of slap on the slow speeds.
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Also tried to tune the dp1 unfortunately seems to be some bigger issues, even adjusted fully still is two stops overexposed. Battery test is working.

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Bought another f2. The meter wasnt working, checking with a DMM found no continuity for the negative connection. took the front plate off as I did with the other camera, also took the mirror box out. Found the terminal at the battery compartment had tarnished, so clean it up and had power again. Fixed the noisy spring while I was there and lubed a few things and back together.
Cleaned her up, fixed a few lose bits need to replace some light seals and she should be good to go.

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Bought another f2. The meter wasnt working, checking with a DMM found no continuity for the negative connection. took the front plate off as I did with the other camera, also took the mirror box out. Found the terminal at the battery compartment had tarnished, so clean it up and had power again. Fixed the noisy spring while I was there and lubed a few things and back together.
Cleaned her up, fixed a few lose bits need to replace some light seals and she should be good to go.

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Very nice! Hope you cleaned the slow speed escapement while you were in there!
 

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Very nice! Hope you cleaned the slow speed escapement while you were in there!
Just a wipe over, I didnt get too carried away, the slow speeds are all working fine, easier enough to get to later if I have to. If it an't broke dont fix it.
I was happy that I fixed the electrical fault and got rid of the dreaded PING!
 

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Hi All,
I experienced a problem with the DP-1 meter on my F2. Even the battery check was erratic, suggesting a power problem. With the base removed and the use of a multimeter, I traced this to somewhere between the sprung contact of the battery compartment and the point where the yellow wire joins the meter switch. A Google search threw up Robin's excellent description of the disassembly process. Though the Nikon manual is available online, there's no substitute for someone's personal experience. The problem was revealed as being threefold: the plastic lug to which the solder tag is attached was broken off (a previous attempt had been made to melt it back on to the body, probably with a soldering iron), the screw securing the solder tag to the contact was loose and the end of the yellow wire was green and corroded. The plastic battery carrier was beyond repair. I tried a few of the usual sources for a replacement unit, but was unable to obtain one. I decided that I'd have to make a replacement. being locked down, I had plenty of time! The ideal material was brass, being easily turned, filed and soldered. Of course, being conductive, I had to be careful to insulate where necessary. The end result works very well and is, I think, more appropriate to a camera of the F2's quality than the cheap and cheerful original plastic part. As a small 'mod', I elected to make the contact inside the body fixed rather than sprung, moving the sprung contact to the battery compartment cap. the contacts I used were parts obtained from a small relay.
Whilst the camera was in pieces, I obtained a foam kit from Sover Wong (next day delivery) and also replaced the other pieces of foam that aren't included in the kit (including the mirror 'ping' foam). Had I been able to track down a Nikon replacement I would have used it, but a) I couldn't, b) I was impatient, c) I had time and d) I think I've improved on the original part. The pictures pretty much tell the story.
Best wishes and stay well,
Steve
 

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Great job Steve! I replaced mine with a NOS plastic holder and felt very dissatisfied even though it worked. You will probably never have to worry about that aspect of the camera breaking again!

(man I really need to go ahead and buy that mini lathe!) :pouty:
 

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(man I really need to go ahead and buy that mini lathe!) :pouty:

Thanks Kino. The lathe is an Emco Unimat 3, useful for all kinds of things. Everyone should have one! Just before the battery compartment I'd used it to make a small stationary steam engine.
Best wishes,
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Great thread!! Awesome!!

I loved the trick on the "Ping", yes that ping is a bit annoying!
 
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