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Why is a calibrated AF system harder to achieve on the F6
pentaxuser
Why is a calibrated AF system harder to achieve on the F6 and what does Nikon do to calibrate the 58. Is this a calibration that doesn't apply to other lenses and when Nikon calibrates the 58 to a specific Nikon F6 I take it that this does not make the F6 worse for other lenses?
Thanks
pentaxuser
This lens has a different design concept than the other Nikkors in that focal lens class....
It’s not just for portraits, and it’s earned a spot in my don’t ever sell list. “Poor Man’s Noct” isn’t too far off in my opinion, and well worth the price to me.
The 58mm is notorious for requiring AF calibration if you want to shoot often at 1.4-2.0 (which if you are buying a 58G, that's the whole point).
This lens has a different design concept than the other Nikkors in that focal lens class: The main subject in the middle of the picture should be separated in an optimal, three-dimensional way. The picture should get a certain, more visible "depth". Or often called "3D-Pop".
To reach this goal one important measure is to give the lens a significant amount of field curvature (curvature of the sharpness field). Normally field curvature is considered a design flaw in lens design, and lens designers try all to avoid it as much as possible (to get "plan" lenses). Because most customers want an even sharpness across the whole image.That is not possible when a lens has significant field curvature. That is also the reason why this 1.4/58 G Nikkor lacks sharpness at the borders in normal lens tests: In these tests plan, flat test charts are photographed. And that is the main reason why pixelpeepers don't like it.
But if you evaluate this lens in real field testing, using it for the subjects it is designed for, things look very different and much better.
I knew this was related to choice on how to balance lens aberrations, but didn't know it was linked to specifically field curvature. This is a new piece for the puzzle.
And there are lenses which have very good to excellent sharpness across the field, but also have some "3D-Pop". In my Nikon lens arsenal e.g. that is valid to the Zeiss ZF 2/50 and the AF-D Nikkor 2/105 DC. And a bit less to the AF-D 2.8/180 and AF-S 4/300.
In my Mamiya lens arsenal the Sekor A 2.8/150 has this nice rendering, too.
Best regards,
Henning
specfically (i.e. reduced/eliminated coma and flare).
Wow, didn't know Zeiss made a 50/2 in ZF guise. I'll have to hunt for one!
Surprisingly to me, this 50mm lens has remarkable barrel distorion, that can be corrected by the digital camera itself or in post, but that distortion is not nice for film.
In theory, by correcting digitally you're losing resolution as well.
Flavio,
it was first introduced as Zeiss Makro-Planar 2/50 ZF and ZE. About 1.5 years later it was upgraded to the ZF.2 standard with integrated CPU for the Nikon F mount (ZE remained unchanged of course).
In 2015 it was upgraded to the Milvus standard, with the complete new barrel design and full weather sealing. It also got new coating technology.
It is an excellent lens, one of the best 50mm lenses you can get for Nikon F. It is especially an excellent all-round lens, as it is not only very good as a macro lens, but also oustanding the whole range up to infinity. Often macro lenses are weaker at longer distances, but not this Zeiss Makro-Planar.
It is my most used 50mm lens on my Nikons, as it even surpasses all my (very good) Nikkor 50mm lenses.
Best regards,
Henning
I don't like lenses with distortion ......
This lens is designed to isolate the important subject in the middle / centre of the frame, and to separate it from the backgound in a three-dimensional way.
But this is less painful today, we have sensors generally outresolving the lenses
Sorry, but that is of course completely wrong, and has absolutely nothing to do with the reality of physics! I am testing lenses for about 30 years now. And had never the case that a sensor has generally outresolved a lens in 35mm
I've reached the diffraction limit at f5.6 with 240 lp/mm on ADOX CMS 20 II.
At all it won't separate the subject from the background better or worse than the regular 50mm f/1.4G (beyond focal difference),
Sorry, but a Nikon D850 has 45 MPix, and a Prime good lens is only able to resolve 17 to 25 effective MPix.
It's my go to lens on my F3P. Only bummer is that it does not handle flare well, which is surprising considering how deep set the front element is, and how my other Zeiss lenses are excellent in that regard.
That is complete BS!! You are again spreading stupid lies here!! As so often. You haven't understood lens and resolution tests at all.
Sorry, good bye. I'm not to debate with somebody like you. If it is not covid age stress, then visit a doctor.
As you are not interested in facts, physics, scientific tests, proven data by the best companies and lens designers in the industry, and has refused my invitation (which was seriously meant), please be consequent and put me on your ignore list.
No surprise here. Henning is known for his passive-agressive style, maybe it has to do with the fact that English is not his first language, I don't know, however his account over at APHOG NEXT (the largest German analogue photo forum) has been blocked. I wonder no more why. Anyway, I decided too not to participate in conversations with him any more for the same reasons as well as for the fact that he tried to challange me for things I've never said. And I completely understand your reasonings: no one has the right of accusing people of BS, spreading lies, being completely wrong on smth and to behave in an offensively condescending manner toward fellow forum members.I not interested in speaking with somebody saying Complete BS! , spreading stupid lies , You haven't understood , so needing some soap for the mouth. Thanks for the recommendation, done.
No surprise here. Henning is known for his passive-agressive style, maybe it has to do with the fact that English is not his first language, I don't know, however his account over at APHOG NEXT (the largest German analogue photo forum) has been blocked.
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