Lee L said:See my last post, referring you to page 3 of the Keppler article.
Lee
firecracker said:My feeling (pure feeling) is that ZI RF is modeled after Leica M2 and M4 as well as old Zeiss RF cameras.
My by-the-end-of-the-year shopping list includes the ZI RF and Leica M4P. I've been betting, shopping around between these two models, and hopefully to pick up one when I get a good deal.
kivis said:Cosina has done a great service by all the really great products they have brought to market. Good to excellent quality and a real wake up call to Leica in my humble opinion.
Biogon Bill said:I fail to follow the logic. How do you get from "joint venture" to "rebadged Cosina"?
Bill
Biogon Bill said:Firecracker, as a future Zeiss Ikon owner, you may be pleased to know that the Zeiss Ikon is not modeled after the M2 & M4, nor for that matter the old Zeiss RF cameras. It is a new design. If it were modeled after the M2/M4 lineage, it would essentially be an M7, which it is not. The M6 & M7 are derived directly from the M2.
What the ZI does share with the M2 & M4 is an uncluttered viewfinder, which has been lost with later Leica M cameras.
The Konica Hexar RF was clearly derived directly from the Leica M series. Unfortunately, it continued the same cluttered viewfinder from the M6 - only worse. Even Leica didn't includer 135 mm frame lines in a viewfinder with a magnification of only 0.6x.
The legacy of the M series cameras in the Hexar RF is most evident in its rangefinder design. Erwin Puts has demonstrated that this is a direct copy of the rangefinder in the M6, which is unchanged from the M2. It is identical.
However, the rangefinder design used in the Zeiss Ikon is completeely different than the one used by Leica or Konica. Puts has said that it is most similar to the design used on the M3. Both of these designs are more accurate than the later Leica & Konica design, and they eliminate flare & rangefinder parallax.
Bill
Roger Hicks said:Dear Kent,
I hope so too! It's always a bit frightening when someone spends large sums of money on one's recommendation. But I was looking yesterday at some pictures of the Faversham barge museum that I'm planning to upload to the galleries at www.rogerandfrances.com. They were taken with an original R or maybe R2 and 50/1.5 Nokton (with 2x yellow filter from B+W) on Paterson Acupan 200 (now Fomapan 200 Creative). I was still well pleased, several years on.
It's a lovely lens and they're all good cameras, though I have to say that the Zeiss Ikon (which Frances and I have also had for review) is even nicer. Then again, at twice the price, so it should be.
Cheers,
Roger
Roger Hicks said:Dear Kent,
I hope so too! It's always a bit frightening when someone spends large sums of money on one's recommendation.
It's a lovely lens and they're all good cameras, though I have to say that the Zeiss Ikon (which Frances and I have also had for review) is even nicer. Then again, at twice the price, so it should be.
Cheers,
Roger
Tom Hoskinson said:I use SR44 Silver Oxide batteries in my Voigtlander R3A. The voltage of the SR44 is 1.55Volts.
My R3A was shipped to me with a SR44 battery included
Claire Senft said:Whence llast I handled a Leica they were not supplying pacifiers with a red dot. Is it possible to send one back to Leica for a retrofit?
Claire Senft said:Nein, Nein Zeiss ist nicht scheiss, Du bist krank mit der Leicakrankheit. Ach, Gott im himmel, du bist einen arshsluck und hosenscheisser.
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