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GregW · Feb 6, 2017

I recently scored a couple expired boxes of the original Lupex from agfa/ansco and am wondering how close this version would be to what I found? To Azo? Can I expect it to be warm toned as well? Also for chloride papers like this, if one is hesitant to begin using Amidol, what would be a close second developer to try?

Wayne · Feb 6, 2017

GregW said:
I recently scored a couple expired boxes of the original Lupex from agfa/ansco and am wondering how close this version would be to what I found? To Azo? Can I expect it to be warm toned as well? Also for chloride papers like this, if one is hesitant to begin using Amidol, what would be a close second developer to try?

Photographers Formulary makes a nice developer that they claim gives similar results to amidol. http://stores.photoformulary.com/bw-65-liquid-paper-developer/
I've never used amidol or Lupex but BW-65 is a very nice developer that I particularly liked with Polywarmtone paper.

GregW · Feb 7, 2017

Thanks Wayne. Something to try.

Peter Schrager · Feb 7, 2017

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GregW · Feb 8, 2017

To answer some of my own questions. The old original Lupex was warmtone. It looks great in ansco 130 and selectol soft and has amazing keeping qualities, this stuff expired in '55 and has zero fog. When I've worked through these I'll give the new stuff a try. Going to try it in Selectol (not soft) and some others soon. Peter which agfa developer are you referring to? Do you mix it yourself? I can't seem to find it online.

Peter Schrager · Feb 8, 2017

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Photo Engineer · Feb 8, 2017

Lupex, being a Chloro Iodide emulsion is black when I make it. It has no significant addenda to warm it up. In fact, there is a warm tone Lupex formula that uses Copper Chloride and an odd addition method to warm it up.

PE

Sal Santamaura · Nov 15, 2017

ADOX Fotoimpex said:
PROMOTIONAL OFFER: We offer the 8x10/5 sheets LUPEX with worldwide free shipping included at no extra costs.

https://www.fotoimpex.de/shopen/pho...inchx10-inch-5-sheets-gradation-normal-3.html

It will be sent as a regular postal service letter. The downturn is that there is no trackability and the letter might get slightly bent or damaged. But this way you can try out the paper no matter where you are and then make a better decision on a possible purchase of a larger amount.

After procrastinating for more than one and a half years, I recently took advantage of this offer. I'm very glad I did!

My test prints on ADOX LUPEX (processed in ADOX MCC developer) are very impressive. Their image tone is neutral without need for selenium -- exactly what I like -- and the surface is perfect. Just enough gloss to support solid blacks and not so shiny that reflections are a problem. I don't see any evidence of optical brighteners either.

If anyone is looking for an exquisite paper to contact print on, I strongly suggest making a small investment in this LUPEX sample package. It arrived here in California a mere five days after my order was placed, and would be well worth an even longer wait.

Pioneer · Nov 15, 2017

Sal Santamaura said:
After procrastinating for more than one and a half years, I recently took advantage of this offer. I'm very glad I did!

My test prints on ADOX LUPEX (processed in ADOX MCC developer) are very impressive. Their image tone is neutral without need for selenium -- exactly what I like -- and the surface is perfect. Just enough gloss to support solid blacks and not so shiny that reflections are a problem. I don't see any evidence of optical brighteners either.

If anyone is looking for an exquisite paper to contact print on, I strongly suggest making a small investment in this LUPEX sample package. It arrived here in California a mere five days after my order was placed, and would be well worth an even longer wait.

Thanks Sal. I went ahead and ordered some to try. I have been using Lodima, and will likely continue, but it is always worth supporting another similar product.

Oren Grad · Nov 15, 2017

Sal, thanks for sharing your observations. A question: what is the recommended fix and wash for LUPEX? The data sheet doesn't say anything on this. MCC does OK with the Ilford sequence, and I'm wondering whether the same is true of LUPEX.

Andrew O'Neill · Nov 15, 2017

Under what type of light are you making your exposures? For Lodima, I was using a 300W tungsten bulb in a reflector.

Alan9940 · Nov 15, 2017

Sal Santamaura said:
If anyone is looking for an exquisite paper to contact print on, I strongly suggest making a small investment in this LUPEX sample package. It arrived here in California a mere five days after my order was placed, and would be well worth an even longer wait.

+1

After burning right through the 5-sheet sample pack, I ordered a couple 100-sheet boxes; absolutely love this paper! I process it in Amidol for a very pleasant warm tone. I, also, do not selenium tone this paper.

Sal Santamaura · Nov 15, 2017

Andrew O'Neill said:
Under what type of light are you making your exposures?...

The same as I used for Azo. A ten-inch Smith-Victor reflector with attached diffuser and a 34W bulb. With the diffuser approximately 12 inches above the paper, this results in around a 12-second exposure, and is sufficiently even for up to 5x7 contacts. For larger prints, it's necessary to raise the light source a bit higher and increase exposure time accordingly.

Sal Santamaura · Nov 15, 2017

Oren Grad said:
...A question: what is the recommended fix and wash for LUPEX? The data sheet doesn't say anything on this...

I'm afraid Mirko will have to chime in for any answer about what's 'recommended.' I handled it the same way I do any fiber based paper, namely, one minute in TF-4 directly followed by a one hour wash in slowly running (250ml/minute) water using my Inglis print washer.

Since these were initial small test prints, I gave only a single fix in freshly mixed TF-4 working solution. On 'real' prints, I set up two identical trays of TF-4 and fix in both sequentially. Given its alkaline, i.e. free of bleaching, nature, I fix for the full specified one minute in each tray rather than splitting that time between them.

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