New packaging for D76

[mshchem]

The important thing is these packages are well sealed. The bag size may be related to the packaging equipment. I'm thankful that the product is available with all the economic, political and pandemic chaos . The USA is such an out of control virus mess logistics must be a nightmare. I don't know the actual status, but I have heard DHL has stopped or has very limited service to the US. What a mess.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

What material are those bags made of? If it's not at least polyester, all the speculation about nitrogen is futile. Oxygen permeability varies greatly from one plastic to another.

When Eastman Kodak was about to declare bankruptcy, after several email exchanges with Dick Dickerson and Silvia Zawadzki (the inventors), I bought what for me was a lifetime supply of XTOL. At the time, most Kodak powdered chemicals, including XTOL, were packaged in aluminized polyester packets. I then further placed those in zip-closed aluminized polyester anti-static storage bags, the latter not for their anti-static properties but rather as a secondary oxygen barrier. Dick and Silvia said they couldn't see any reason why my approach wouldn't work. Nearly a decade later, when I mix another five liters of stock solution every six months or so, there's no discernible change in the powders or resulting developer.

If anyone is concerned about long-term storage of powdered chemicals, I strongly recommend placing manufacturers' packages into zip-top reclosable aluminized polyester anti-static bags.

 

[Donald Qualls]

When Eastman Kodak was about to declare bankruptcy, after several email exchanges with Dick Dickerson and Silvia Zawadzki (the inventors), I bought what for me was a lifetime supply of XTOL. At the time, most Kodak powdered chemicals, including XTOL, were packaged in aluminized polyester packets. I then further placed those in zip-closed aluminized polyester anti-static storage bags, the latter not for their anti-static properties but rather as a secondary oxygen barrier. Dick and Silvia said they couldn't see any reason why my approach wouldn't work. Nearly a decade later, when I mix another five liters of stock solution every six months or so, there's no discernible change in the powders or resulting developer.

And, without benefit of the extra oxygen barrier or any special care in storage, I recently mixed a 5L package of Xtol that expired in 2002 -- which implies it was fully twenty years in the envelopes before I opened them -- and the color of the stock solution, as well as activity, appears completely normal. Those old foil/poly packets were pretty darned tight, as long as they didn't get snagged, ripped, or punctured.

 

[mshchem]

What material are those bags made of? If it's not at least polyester, all the speculation about nitrogen is futile. Oxygen permeability varies greatly from one plastic to another.

When Eastman Kodak was about to declare bankruptcy, after several email exchanges with Dick Dickerson and Silvia Zawadzki (the inventors), I bought what for me was a lifetime supply of XTOL. At the time, most Kodak powdered chemicals, including XTOL, were packaged in aluminized polyester packets. I then further placed those in zip-closed aluminized polyester anti-static storage bags, the latter not for their anti-static properties but rather as a secondary oxygen barrier. Dick and Silvia said they couldn't see any reason why my approach wouldn't work. Nearly a decade later, when I mix another five liters of stock solution every six months or so, there's no discernible change in the powders or resulting developer.

If anyone is concerned about long-term storage of powdered chemicals, I strongly recommend placing manufacturers' packages into zip-top reclosable aluminized polyester anti-static bags.

I've had the same experience. I did buy a rediculous amount of the Tetenal produced XTOL when the reorganization of Tetenal was announced. I've tried the newest XTOL, had ZERO ISSUES.

 

[Adrian Bacon]

Just bought a new package of D76 from my local camera store, past few years have been using clones, the price was nice, better than Freestyle or Ultrafine, no shipping, but boy it is a big sack, 3 times larger than needed, I hope they used nitrogen other wise will oxidize much sooner. They hypo clearing also seems to be in over size package.

I suspect it’s for cost savings where they just have one bag size instead of unique packaging for each.

 

[MattKing]

Dektol and Hypo Clearing Agent and Kodak Fixer are also all in the same new packaging.
The pouches seem to be fairly robust, well sealed and it doesn't appear to me that they have any more air in them than the old pouches. They just flop around more, and therefore create storage and display headaches for retailers with limited shelf space.