I have always thought that the intended market for that camera are schools / colleges in which cinematography / movie film production is taught.
But:
For that market - regular more "heavy" use by many different students - offering a guarantee for only 20 rolls of film???
That does not make any sense.
Today if you learn cinematography wouldn't it be better to use digital first? You can move on to film but learning film first doesn't make sense. And then if you move over to film wouldn't it be better to use 35mm or larger equipment? The super 8 extended gate format is really a hybrid.
Film schools and departments usually use 16mm. Using 35mm film, cameras, editing equipment would be exorbitantly expensive.
After watching the above video I get the impression that this camera was designed by engineers with no experience in film making. With a warranty of only 20 rolls, Kodak has little faith in its robustness. For $5,500?! Especially when compared with the 16mm Kodak 100, many of which are still going strong.
Today if you learn cinematography wouldn't it be better to use digital first? You can move on to film but learning film first doesn't make sense.
Film schools and departments usually use 16mm cameras. And for a reason. Using 35mm film would be unrealistically expansive. In addition, the cost of cameras, editing equipment, etc are exorbitant.
As for the new Kodak Super8, obviously with a warranty covering only 20 rolls, is not built with the ruggedness of the old Kodak 100 16mm cameras of the past. My feeling is that this camera was conceived by engineers who were not movie makers. Hence the criticisms by the film maker in the video.
I guess they won't be selling it in Europe or the UK with that warranty.....
I was on the visual aid squad when I was 12 in the 1950s showing all the movies to the students in the auditorium. It was 16mm WITH SOUND. Does the new Super 8 have sound?
No schools will be buying this camera. Schools don't have money to throw away. Any "film" school only currently has 16mm or super8 cameras because they've had them for years. How on earth could you justify purchasing this camera to a board of trustees?
This camera is for people with money to burn.
Yes you can buy a good used Beaulieu cheap.
What do you mean the sound will be combined with the pictures? Do they give you a digital memory card that has both sound and video?It does and it doesn't. No sound is recorded on the film but separately on an SD card. The sound will be combined with the pictures in the video that they return to you. But if you want to project the film using the Super 8 projector there will be no sound and also the projector will not project the whole frame as the new extended gate super 8 frame is slightly larger than the super 8. Because of these things I think it's not a good system to learn shooting film.
What do you mean the sound will be combined with the pictures? Do they give you a digital memory card that has both sound and video?
This camera is intended to be used by people who shoot on film and then have the developed film digitized immediately.
The digital intermediate is then used in the video editing part of film production, just like in most modern movie production.
When you send the film to Kodak for processing they would develop the film as negative then scanned them in 4K format, combined the sound you have recorded on the SD card and put it on a memory stick and send back to you. You won't have a roll of sound super 8 film coming back. If you shoot positive film like Ektachrome or Tri-X reversal then you can project the film but it's still sient. In fact the film that they sell you now doesn't have the magnetic track. That's why I don't think it's good for learning as the workflow isn't purely film. It's hybrid. If you do editing it's would be in digital. You don't cut and splice like the old days.
What 4K format is the returned video provided in? Are there options depending on what the film is and who develops it?
A lab like Pro8mm in California would do it. You can send them the media or they can email you (I don't know how they email large file) but they said it would cost $5 a GB extra.
They will almost certainly email a download link rather than email the file directly. I've used Gauge Film here in the UK and they emailed me a link to files which were about 2Gb for B&W 8mm 2K scans.
They will also probably offer to mail a DVD or USB stick. Though some labs I've looked at ask you to send your own USB flash drive with your films.
Even in 16mm the only camera I know of with pin registration is Arriflex.
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