Weren't they working on porting TMAX P3200 to 120? Does anyone know if that was cancelled? I love Delta 3200 in 120, I'd love to compare it to P3200, but I'm shooting very little 35mm these days.
It may be the case that, just as it was many decades ago, the people with red window cameras are now relatively important.
The growth in 120 is most likely from enthusiasts, rather than professional and commercial users.
Weren't they working on porting TMAX P3200 to 120? Does anyone know if that was cancelled?
Bob Shanebrook explains how the scanning of the film works at the coating line. It uses an NIR laser beam with 830nm for all sensitized materials. (Making Kodak Film, 2nd Edition, Page 248)
With this scanning equipment, coating imperfections are detected so that affected sections of the master roll can be discarded when being slit and finished. If one looks at the datasheets of EIR or HIE,
it is clear that the wavelength of this laser falls into the spectral sensitivity of those emulsions.
Additionally, the coating and finishing machines will almost certainly use a lot of other off-the-shelf industrial sensors that utilize IR.
As they are coating everything on this one coating machine in B38, this is probably the very practical reason why a new IR film just cannot be produced.
Some photographers even had problems with IR film when used in more modern cameras that also used IR to detect the sprocked holes or the presence of film of whatever. The invisible light exposed the film.
Ilford SFX on the other hand is a film with an extended red sensitivity. The sensitivity curve drops off sharply at about 750nm, just short of where "real" IR would start. At the typical wavelengths used in industrial sensors and Kodak's laser scanner, it
has already dropped to zero. I am sure that Ilford also uses IR sensors and that explains why SFX can be manufactured on those machines.
Conclusion: No real IR film to expect, because the equipment would destroy the film just moments after it had been made.
some of the older Canon EOS camera manuals mentioned this and even had Pictures. in most of the EOS film cameras the film passes an IR led and sensor pair located at the upper right of the film opening when looking at the back of the open camera. the camera's computer counts the perforations as they go by and stops at the next frame. one of the EOS 1 units instead used an actual sprocket to meter out the film, so that IR film could be used.Some photographers even had problems with IR film when used in more modern cameras that also used IR to detect the sprocked holes or the presence of film of whatever. The invisible light exposed the film.
given that the expiry date of IR was always shorter than average, your 5 year supply would be out of date in half that time.expired Aerochrome/EIR
I guess still not enough to warrant a production run? Given a single run would probably last for 5 years.
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It was just one of the numerous speculations which new product it could be. But at least it was one of the more realistic speculations.
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Henning
thanks for the comment. My memory may be faulty, but I thought Kodak actually talked about working on P3200 in 120, around the time they released E100.
thanks for the comment. My memory may be faulty, but I thought Kodak actually talked about working on P3200 in 120, around the time they released E100
Now as you say it.......yes, I think there has been a bit diffuse insinuation in the sense of "we get requests from customers, and may have a look into it evaluating whether it may be possible...." If I remember right. Told in an interview. But I am not 100% sure.
I's sure like them to again produce the CN 400 in 35 and a 120/220 format.Given that sales of C41 seem to be the big driver of film growth at the moment, I think they should port some of the consumer grade C41 films to 120 (I'd love sheets as well, but that is pretty unlikely.) I don't really care which ones, as long as it doesn't have the Portra color profile (which I'm not a huge fan of.) This is mostly me missing Fuji color film in 120. I still have a couple of dozen rolls of Pro 400H, but I'd like something slower and not Portra.
Oh, and HIE! In 4x5 and 120!
As we just recently have determined, Kodak already launched a new film in 2022.
It is called Fujicolor 200.
This is the year! Or so I hope, with the film market you never know.Nico Llasera keeps hinting that he has insider knowledge of news from Kodak that he can't share yet. So, I'm hopeful there might actually be a new/resurrected film stock later this year.
Im also hopeful Panatomic X might get a chance again, but so far, no indication they will do that film.
Since Panatomic-X had cadmium in the emulsion, it is very unlikely that Kodak would re-release the original formulation.
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