New Kodak Film in 2021?

[Cholentpot]

To add perforations?

Get that Na...I mean German precision.

 

[Helge]

HIE was special in its speed and range.
But it was also rather grainy.
Woods effect and Rayleigh scattering starts and ends right around 720nm so it’s no coincidence that many films aims to just cover that by a bit.
Having either the speed or the deeper spectrum would definitely be welcome.
Konica’s truncated spectrum would make IR far more accessible to people not willing to take the plunge to for a real IR filter.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

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HIE was special in its speed and range.
But it was also rather grainy.
Woods effect and Rayleigh scattering starts and ends right around 720nm so it’s no coincidence that many films aims to just cover that by a bit.
Having either the speed or the deeper spectrum would definitely be welcome.
Konica’s truncated spectrum would make IR far more accessible to people not willing to take the plunge to for a real IR filter.

4x5 HIE was pretty smooth. I've got one or two examples in the gallery.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I would be happy with any IR film that made it out to 820.

 

[Helge]

4x5 HIE was pretty smooth. I've got one or two examples in the gallery.

Beach sand is smooth in 4x5.
You are also forced into high aperture numbers with LF, so even with a small selection range of film speeds you are into the same territory whether you shoot 120 or 4x5.

 

[mshchem]

I haven't shot Kodak HIE for 30 years. I would be interested in trying it. Especially in 120. Last near infrared film I shot was the Ilford SFX , got nice results. If Kodak would produce a real HIE I think there would be people standing in line to snap it up.

I wouldn't send this stuff off through Walmart for processing. This stuff needs to be handled with care.

I think that selling it in little aluminum screw top cans painted red and black would be amazing.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Posted for fun.

That reciprocity compensation never worked for me so I generated my own years ago. Still use it.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I would be happy with any IR film that made it out to 820.

+10,000

 

[wyofilm]

+10,000

Saves time on hitting the 'like' button 10000 times!

 

[MamiyaBronica]

I'd like an ISO1000 film, please. Surely there has to be some incredible work on high-speed emulsions that got shelved when it was clear that Digital was taking over the consumer and amateur market? Something that perhaps shifted towards higher saturation?

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I'd like an ISO1000 film, please. Surely there has to be some incredible work on high-speed emulsions that got shelved when it was clear that Digital was taking over the consumer and amateur market? Something that perhaps shifted towards higher saturation?

Colour?

 

[Sirius Glass]

A 3200 film with the real speed of ISO 3200.

 

[MamiyaBronica]

Colour?

Oh yes, absolutely. ISO1000 colour film. Negative would be fine, Reversal would be incredible.

 

[Wayne]

Cheap and good. Good and cheap. Artrop 400 in 120, 4x5, 5x7 and 8x10.

 

[markjwyatt]

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HIE was special in its speed and range.
But it was also rather grainy.
Woods effect and Rayleigh scattering starts and ends right around 720nm so it’s no coincidence that many films aims to just cover that by a bit.
Having either the speed or the deeper spectrum would definitely be welcome.
Konica’s truncated spectrum would make IR far more accessible to people not willing to take the plunge to for a real IR filter.

Interesting, Konica is basically an orthochromatic-IR film. I used to shoot HIE with a 25A.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Interesting, Konica is basically an orthochromatic-IR film. I used to shoot HIE with a 25A.

Me too. They was the strongest filter I ever used.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Oh yes, absolutely. ISO1000 colour film. Negative would be fine, Reversal would be incredible.

ISO 800 is close enough for me for color negative film.

 

[cmacd123]

I recall that Ektapress line included one that was about 1000,in colour. Only shot a few rolls, as it was sold in 50 roll Propacks, and only one store downtown broke them up and sold them by the roll.

 

[Lachlan Young]

The 'green gap' effect on HIE - and the more extreme cut-off at 600nm on Konica's IR were intended to make those films more readily usable without needing any particularly strong cut-off filtration that was visually nearly opaque.

 

[fdonadio]

I recall that Ektapress line included one that was about 1000,in colour. Only shot a few rolls, as it was sold in 50 roll Propacks, and only one store downtown broke them up and sold them by the roll.

I’ve shot a lot of Ektapress 1000, way back in the 90’s. A little too contrasty, but I guess it was meant to be that way. I like Ektar 1000 a lot better, but Ektapress was cheaper.

 

[cmacd123]

Colour IR IMO is a gimmick. It never has anything to do with real colour, and is always going to look like images from Mars.
.

IR film was not intended for artistic Photography, but for taking aerial Photos.

the "False colour" of colour IR film was carefully designed to pick out foliage, from Camouflage. and Healthy trees for stressed trees. their are many other applications, some of which we are not going to find out unless we have a "Need to Know" as the tech guys say, Not a bug but a feature.

 

[Helge]

IR film was not intended for artistic Photography, but for taking aerial Photos.

the "False colour" of colour IR film was carefully designed to pick out foliage, from Camouflage. and Healthy trees for stressed trees. their are many other applications, some of which we are not going to find out unless we have a "Need to Know" as the tech guys say, Not a bug but a feature.

Yet it was sold to the consumer. And colour IR is quite popular still.
I’m not trying to shame it out of existence. I just think it has a strong taste of gimmick after a few tries.
B&W IR not at all.

Colour IR shouldn’t be something we pine for to come back.
It’s impractical and not something that is broadly applicable.

 

[Agulliver]

Colour IR film was sold to the consumer because some consumers wanted to use it for experimental or artistic reasons. I never got to use any but would probably give it a try....that doesn't mean it would have a long term market as the main uses were as stated above.

I was realising that I miss plus-x in super 8 and std 8mm cine film more than in 135 or 120.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Yet it was sold to the consumer. And colour IR is quite popular still.
I’m not trying to shame it out of existence. I just think it has a strong taste of gimmick after a few tries.
B&W IR not at all.

Colour IR shouldn’t be something we pine for to come back.
It’s impractical and not something that is broadly applicable.

IR films and color IR films were developed pun intended for reconnaissance, others liked it for its rendering.

 

[fdonadio]

IR films and color IR films were developed pun intended for reconnaissance, others liked it for its rendering.

They were developed, shot and then developed again.