They must have put in a lot of effort to avoid this pesky red sensitivity ... amazing that they got as high as ISO 80!
Seriously, they saved on red sensitizer, and brought nothing which can not be replicated with FP4+ or Delta 100 and a Wratten 44A filter. Yes, it's a specialty film - and for good reason. It will attract lots of "I've got to try this once!" folks, who then move on to the next "big thing".
They must have put in a lot of effort to avoid this pesky red sensitivity ... amazing that they got as high as ISO 80!
Seriously, they saved on red sensitizer, and brought nothing which can not be replicated with FP4+ or Delta 100 and a Wratten 44A filter. Yes, it's a specialty film - and for good reason. It will attract lots of "I've got to try this once!" folks, who then move on to the next "big thing".
r. Yes, it's a specialty film - and for good reason. It will attract lots of "I've got to try this once!" folks, who then move on to the next "big thing".
I just bought 500 sheets of the old Ilford paper, so now I will have to spend many long days in the darkroom using it as fast as I can so that I can buy the improved paper. Why is Ilford doing this the me!
Yes of course it has couplers with that speed. I wasn't thinking.No, all ortho films use sensitising dyes - and even purely blue sensitive films often use acutance dyes.
It's a specialty variant on FP4+ coated perhaps once a year. It's not a cheap litho/ high contrast duplicating film repackaged, but a normal contrast camera film that just happens to not be red sensitive. It does not need special development or other painful procedures to make easy to print negatives. If you want the ortho look without wasting time on playing around with developers, it does it.
No kidding! I also just bought a bunch of paper. Oh, well.
I will have to promise myself not to buy more paper until all the IV is used up. I have to tell myself not buy 'just a little bit' for ... you know ... testing purposes.
Thanks for the link. I note that the new MG speed at grades 4-5 drop by only 10%(240-220) whereas the old MGIV dropped by 100% ( 200 -100) This was a drop of one stop so Ilford's suggestion to double exposure followed logically. Does the new 10% drop equate to a 10% increase in exposure for grades 4-5 or as near 10% as to make no difference?And here’s the tech sheet: https://www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/1952/product/745/
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You will fog O+ under anything other than a 906 dark red safelight - equivalent to a Kodak #2 which is very dark indeed.
No kidding! I also just bought a bunch of paper. Oh, well.
I will have to promise myself not to buy more paper until all the IV is used up. I have to tell myself not buy 'just a little bit' for ... you know ... testing purposes.
Ilford Ortho in 120 and 35mm? It's a current emulsion in sheet formats, would only need coating in smaller formats and could be made in small batches like SFX. Or maybe an addition to the Kentmere line of films? Kentmere in 120?
kevs
As anyone seen whether or not the 135 ortho will be offered in bulk?
Is it really "just" FP4 with red sensitivity taken out?
Go big or go home! No, scratch that.Whoa big fella, I am still getting my head around how I could use a twelve exposure roll!
All accounts from people with good Ilford connections have essentially said as much & having used quite a bit of it, I'd agree with their characterisation.
I got to the Sunny 16 site and the Ilford communications but how do I listen to the podcast. I just went round in circles.Two employees from Ilford visited the Sunny 16 podcast today to talk about these new products for those interested.
I got to the Sunny 16 site and the Ilford communications but how do I listen to the podcast. I just went round in circles.
pentaxuser
Actually have used it to see if my stash had lost any film speed being out of date, seems to be fine. You are correct that its the same thickness as fp4, have been using a lot of other ortho film. Should of checked before commenting. Most of the sky pictures Ive seen with this film used an orange filter.Well, you've clearly never used any. Unlike a re-purposed litho/ duplicating film on thin poly base, Ortho plus is on exactly the same base as its siblings in the Ilford range. Depending on how you process & print it can look remarkably panchromatic - no problems with weird sky tones (that is as much a function of exposure and process as it is with any panchromatic film).
Maybe I am a strange person in terms of what is value for money to me but while I might buy Ortho once or even once in a while at this price as I have never tried it before then unless it gives me something that I then believe I cannot live without in terms of prints from negs then at over £3 more expensive per film than FP4 I am very unlikely to use it often. On a regular use basis is it £3+ better than FP4 would be the question I ask myself.
If this is what Ilford needs to sell it at then that's the end of the matter but if its only a little better than the equivalent panchromatic film but a lot more expensive than it will affect my purchase decisions
Of course we do not know what Ilford is charging its retailers and more importantly we only appear to have one stockist at the moment. Retail competition over the next few weeks/months will help determine the "true" competitive price
pentaxuser
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