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I was very excited about this until I saw it was a vertically oriented frame. Now I'm just somewhat excited.But of course I welcome it as a good thing.
Grain is not much of an issue with half-frame if you are shooting colour slide film for projection. I invested in a couple of thousand or so half-frame mounts a couple of years ago, so I have a sunk cost that I must indulge at some point.
E6 film and processing are expensive so it is a good way to save money in that particular context. Here is what half-frame Provia slides look like. Not exactly grain central and they tend to look much better projected of course, including as regards sharpness and detail. Camera = Yashica Samurai (good lens, but auto-exposure only).
I like vertical oriented frame.
So do I, but only occasionally.
Yeah, but for the creator that was the whole point of this camera.
Either way, rotating it 90 degrees will give you what you want. Or - an Agat 18K gives that orientation for cheap.
That price ain't half of anything, whew, too steep for me.
- If you consider inflation, to say 1991 is about 2x. Say in 1991 a roll of color film was $3 and a P&S with a meter and shutter was $100, so adjusted to $6 and $200 today. Today a roll of color film is maybe $10 and the base version of this camera is about $300. I don't plan to buy one, but I also don't think it's outrageously expensive. We're just spoiled by all the excess of cheap used film cameras lying around.
you actually make an excellent point which i tend to forget. I am afraid we've been spoiled by the prices of a lot of cheap digital junque of late, not to mention the plethora of used gear. In that light, yeah, $400 or so for a new camera with new electronics and so on is probably not all that out of line.
I’ve thought about that also Oren. I have 3 manual lenses for my M4:3 that are also sold in mounts for APS size mirrorless ( one each from Pergear, TTArtisan, and 7Artisan)
But the problem that immediately presented itself was that all 3 have lens elements that are too close to the image plane to be adapted to the Pen F half frame mount which is 28.95mm. Most mirrorless camera mounts are less than 20mm, M4:3 is 19.25mm. Mounted on the Pen F the optical block would foul the mirror movement, just not enough room. I do however use all my original Pen F mount Zuiko’s adapted to my M4:3 camera.
edit; That is of course assuming you mean the Pen F mount, you actually didn’t mention that specifically on your post so my comment may be barking up the wrong tree….so to speak.
I post a pic taken with a half frame camera that shows no grain. Blown up it will, as will any film image because film has grain.
You complain about grain. But just complain about it because as always you never show any examples.
"But but someone may steal that pic I took of my cat!"
Half frame film shot and developed and printed with reasonable care can be enlarged well past 5x7.
Otherwise, one wouldn't be able to make good quality 13"x19" prints from full frame 35mm negatives.
Indeed the 35mm movie frame is smaller than half-frame because of the soundtrack, and it still looks very good. And I can say from personal experience that the resolution of half-frame slides is suitable for projection to the same sizes that a typical full-frame slide show would use. The grain is hardly excessive, but of course that's a matter of opinion.+1.
And let's not forget that the single picture of standard 35mm movie film is also only half-frame.
And that is projected on huge screens with 10 meters width........
I'm curious if this camera's electronics use a micro-controller, and is intended to be sold in the US, because if so, it requires FCC testing, which can run north of $10k.
One can't really compare image size between still photography and cinematography.
A projected movie image is a 24 fps composite and will look much more detailed than a still frame of the same size projected.
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