New film on the market: LomoChrome Turquoise XR 100-400

Henning Serger · Nov 6, 2014

Photo Engineer said:
Just goes to show me that people will buy anything.

PE

As long as it keeps the film production running am fine with that...
Different people, different tastes.
Looks like there are enough photographers who do like it, enough for regular very small production runs.
And the very important point here is:
InovisCoat is able to make this really small (more precise: tiny) production runs of colour film.
The Lomochrome Purple so far has been made in 10,000 films batches. You know that is next to nothing for a film production.
Even Ilford, "the master of flexibility and efficient downscaling", is not able to do such tiny batches.

These German engineers are completely busting the apug myth that such tiny colour film batches are impossible.
We should be very happy that this myth is busted. It is a good sign for the future.

Best regards,
Henning

madgardener · Nov 6, 2014

Henning Serger said:
As long as it keeps the film production running am fine with that...
Different people, different tastes.
Looks like there are enough photographers who do like it, enough for regular very small production runs.
And the very important point here is:
InovisCoat is able to make this really small (more precise: tiny) production runs of colour film.
The Lomochrome Purple so far has been made in 10,000 films batches. You know that is next to nothing for a film production.
Even Ilford, "the master of flexibility and efficient downscaling", is not able to do such tiny batches.

These German engineers are completely busting the apug myth that such tiny colour film batches are impossible.
We should be very happy that this myth is busted. It is a good sign for the future.

Best regards,
Henning

Makes me wonder what Ferrania has planned. They are saying their line is going to be extremely flexible and they are setting up for small production runs. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with them.

Henning Serger · Nov 6, 2014

madgardener said:
Makes me wonder what Ferrania has planned. They are saying their line is going to be extremely flexible and they are setting up for small production runs. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with them.

I've been there at the Ferrania factory last year, have seen their small coating machine.
From a pure technological point of view they will be able to produce film in similar small / tiny batches. At what costs........that is another question.
I think regarding how tiny the InovisCoat runs for Lomography are, the prices for the films are very reasonable (or astonishing low ).

Best regards,
Henning

E. von Hoegh · Nov 6, 2014

benjiboy said:
From the look of some of the pictures it's probably made in the black forest by dwarfs

Nope. It's made by dwarves, but they're LSD addled dwarves and the facility is in the sewers of Hamburg's Sankt Pauli.

phildil · Dec 8, 2014

I bought a five pack of the first batch of Purplechrome and I remember the Lomography marketing attempting to infer that it was some sort of Aerochrome/EIR type film when it was obvious (to me anyways) that this was a colour print film with the dyes switched around.

Anyway here are two of my shots with it, taken on bright sunny Summer days. I liked the purple effect in these examples but a whole roll gets rather repetitive. I'll pass on the new "Turquoisechrome" variant, but I agree with the sentiment that it's a win if this gets more folk interested in shooting film.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/phildil/10124097035/
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/phildil/11739517854/

greets

E. von Hoegh said:
Nope. It's made by dwarves, but they're LSD addled dwarves and the facility is in the sewers of Hamburg's Sankt Pauli.

Renato Tonelli · Dec 8, 2014

How about some "RetroChrome" (AKA Kodachrome) while they are at it. HIE? et.al.?

benjiboy · Dec 8, 2014

I think if that was the only slide film that was still manufactured, I would only shoot monochrome.

TheToadMen · Dec 9, 2014

alienmeatsack said:
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I like to shoot both sides of the Purple so I'm going to try that with the Turquoise as well.

For a very short moment I thought: "Wow, double sided coated film" ...

I think I'll make note in my 2015 diary to offer this special Lomo film on April 1st in the classified section.

Bert from Holland
http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl

asteroid_death · Dec 9, 2014

I was in my local camera shop the other day and I saw a couple of young girls buying some of this lomography stock. They were spending some money too. I think it's pretty cool that kids are into shooting film, albeit just for the experience and not for professional or commercial means. Having said that, I think this enigmatic lomography company still has a long way to go. Their standard print films, although branded lomography, produce results that are more similar to kodak max than anything else (not very exotic), but these films are cheap (3 for $8). Their best film in my opinion is the 120 x-pro 200. The results are fun and unpredictable, and the packs are cheap, but it's still not as exciting as seeing the results of cross processed velvia or ektachrome.

StoneNYC · Dec 9, 2014

asteroid_death said:
I was in my local camera shop the other day and I saw a couple of young girls buying some of this lomography stock. They were spending some money too. I think it's pretty cool that kids are into shooting film, albeit just for the experience and not for professional or commercial means. Having said that, I think this enigmatic lomography company still has a long way to go. Their standard print films, although branded lomography, produce results that are more similar to kodak max than anything else (not very exotic), but these films are cheap (3 for $8). Their best film in my opinion is the 120 x-pro 200. The results are fun and unpredictable, and the packs are cheap, but it's still not as exciting as seeing the results of cross processed velvia or ektachrome.

Some of it IS rebranded kodak and other films, also it's sometimes also cross processed Ektachrome lol, they re-branded a lot of stuff for a while it seems, they don't tell you what it really is of course but then offer stiff for "x-pro" but looks like Provia100f cross processed in C-41 to me.

They seem to charge MORE not less... but maybe the market has changed?

I'm glad kodak partnered with them officially, it means kodak will be around a while longer.

asteroid_death · Dec 9, 2014

Oh I see. Their 400 speed color negative film is just rebranded kodacolor 400 and their x-pro stuff was agfa rsx 200, previously elite chrome and t64. Looks like they just buy up expired film and market it as their own. And I was wondering who was buying up all of my bricks of elite chrome off of ebay. Bastards. It seems their lomochrome films are actually manufactured by them though in a factory in china.

ME Super · Dec 9, 2014

IDK about made in China (more likely coated by Inoviscoat and finished in China or Europe), but I scored 2 rolls of barely expired (11/2014, it's now 12/9/2014) Agfaphoto CT Precisa 100 (which we all know is really Fujichrome Provia 100F) at the local camera store today for $5/roll. You know how long it's been since you could get fresh E-6 film for $5/roll?!

This will be stored in the refrigerator, and NOT cross-processed.

Andrew O'Neill · Dec 9, 2014

Why don't they make something that people would really want, like an IR film??

StoneNYC · Dec 10, 2014

Andrew O'Neill said:
Why don't they make something that people would really want, like an IR film??

Cause it's hard...

Arctic amateur · Dec 10, 2014

Andrew O'Neill said:
Why don't they make something that people would really want, like an IR film??

If people are buying the film, it's fair to assume they want it.

flavio81 · Dec 10, 2014

asteroid_death said:
Oh I see. Their 400 speed color negative film is just rebranded kodacolor 400

Are you sure? I mean, what is really "Kodacolor 400"? That film hasn't been produced since the mid-80s if i recall correctly.

flavio81 · Dec 10, 2014

Andrew O'Neill said:
Why don't they make something that people would really want, like an IR film??

AFAIK, the facilities for producing film have to be kept in darkness. Thus the way the operators work around the place is by using IR vision googles.
This means that the film should not be sensitive to IR. And this would mean that manufacturing an IR film brings extra difficulties.

Andrew O'Neill · Dec 10, 2014

How hard can it be? If they can make colour film, surely an IR film couldn't be that difficult.

Photo Engineer · Dec 10, 2014

The inspection process for color and B&W film involves using an IR scanner. The viewing goggles and IR scanner must somehow be replaced in order to manufacture IR film and do it with high quality. In addition, the chemicals used for IR films are super sensitive to heat (IR) radiation and thus have a short expiration date. To top that off, the chemicals are also very expensive to make.

So, don't hold your breath.

PE

StoneNYC · Dec 10, 2014

Photo Engineer said:
The inspection process for color and B&W film involves using an IR scanner. The viewing goggles and IR scanner must somehow be replaced in order to manufacture IR film and do it with high quality. In addition, the chemicals used for IR films are super sensitive to heat (IR) radiation and thus have a short expiration date. To top that off, the chemicals are also very expensive to make.

So, don't hold your breath.

PE

They could design a macro LIDAR type setup or something.

But yes, not easy.

darkosaric · Dec 11, 2014

Andrew, did you tried Ilford SX 200 or Rollei IR 400 with deep red filter? They are pretty good in achieving the IR look.

Arctic amateur · Dec 14, 2014

I don't follow you, Stone. What is a "macro LIDAR"? How would a laser help?

StoneNYC · Dec 14, 2014

Arctic amateur said:
I don't follow you, Stone. What is a "macro LIDAR"? How would a laser help?

LIDAR is a new Radar system they use to discover and create a three dimensional imaging of ancient ruins underneath the earth, so the same kind of technology could be applied to ensure that the emulsion on the film base is being laid down properly and is even without any contamination or damage, I'm obviously simplifying it, but I'm sure something like this could be designed to "read" the film in the dark without the use of an infrared light.

Truzi · Dec 14, 2014

I'm pretty sure the L in LIDAR is laser (light in general). I don't think that would work well for buried items, though can penetrate a forest canopy to a degree.
For film, it would run into the same situation as IR - what wavelength would be used so-as to not fog the film.

MattKing · Dec 14, 2014

You would need wavelengths suitable for imaging the sort of defects that matter to photographic films - I doubt that Radar would work.

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