"New" colour film ClickASnap

[Agulliver]

I received an email from a retailer I occasionally use here in the UK regarding a "new" range of C41 films, ClickASnap.

As you can hopefully see from the link this is 35mm 36 exposure film in 100, 400 and 800 ISO speeds. Sound familiar? Would this be the same material that Lomography sell as their colour negative film? Which is believed to be the 90s Kodacolor VR (100, 400) and Kodak Max 800 ?

If so, it's actually very good stuff and the ability to buy one roll rather than multi-packs might appeal. But it's nothing genuinely new. On the other hand the blub refers to "inspired by" cinematic film and the films producing halation. Which doesn't match with Kodacolor VR. So is this cinema film repackaged?

ClickASnap

Introducing ClickASnap Colour Negative Film, the film stock that delivers a cinematic look straight out of the camera. Inspired by motion picture film, ClickAsnap 35mm film is the perfect choice for photographers who want to capture the timeless beauty of analog film in their still images...

silverprint.co.uk

 

[brbo]

Looks more like Vision3 without a remjet (same as Cinestill).

 

[Agulliver]

Cheaper than Cinestill if that's the case.

I found a website "ClickASnap" which appears to be an attempt at creating a site that is part paid photo sharing and part social media. To be honest the FAQ answered very few questions with a *lot* of words and the first 3 minutes of their introductory video did the same so I stopped watching.

 

[foc]

From the website.

• C-41 or ECN-2 process
• Colour negative motion picture emulsion
• Safe for C-41 photo lab processing (Remjet backing free)
• Resulting in a slight red halation effect

The positive side is that it is a colour film that is available.

 

[Agulliver]

Indeed it's a colour film that is currently available, and in a variety of speeds. I'm curious to try the 800 at the music club I frequent but not enough to buy some at the moment. Would be interesting as the back wall is lit by red lamps, and all tables have red lamps on them.

 

[koraks]

Looks more like Vision3 without a remjet (same as Cinestill).

Beyond a shadow of a doubt this is Vision3 material. The 100 is likely Vision3 50D, the 400 probably 250D. The only candidate for the 800 variant would be Vision3 500T, which means it's really tungsten balanced. Hence, it will produce an even more distorted color balance than the others when interpreted as a C41 film, and it won't nearly achieve 800 ISO if shot with an appropriate filter. I personally think it's a bit unfortunate that this important detail is left out of the sales information.

 

[Agulliver]

Cinestill do an 800T. What is the original film from which that is produced? Vision 3 500T?

It's definitely not good practise to sell this as regular 800ISO colour negative film if it's tungsten balanced.

 

[koraks]

Cinestill do an 800T. What is the original film from which that is produced? Vision 3 500T?

That's correct. The apparent speed increase is due the higher contrast that you get on this film (compared to what it was designed for) when cross processed in C41. I prefer to shoot these films at box speed, however - so e.g. 250 for the 250D product. I think 400 is a tad optimistic, as is 800 for the 500 speed product. YMMV of course.

 

[BrianShaw]

Do they provide a data sheet for this film?

 

[Flighter]

Looks more like Vision3 without a remjet (same as Cinestill).

Agreed, the blurb on the website suggests that the remjet backing has been removed:

…One of the most notable features of the film is its signature halation effect, which gives your images a soft, dreamy quality that is reminiscent of classic Hollywood films. This effect is achieved by removing the anti-halation layer from the film, resulting in a distinctive light red glow around highlights and light sources...

 

[faberryman]

The description on the website says the film is "Inspired by motion picture film..." which implies to me that it is not motion picture film, but has some of the qualities of motion picture film. If it is respooled motion picture film, it would be just the latest example in a long line of prevarication that is rampant in the respooled film space.

 

[brbo]

The description on the website says the film is "Inspired by motion picture film..." which implies to me that it is not motion picture film...

They were inspired by a (relatively) low price of motion picture film that they can get from Eastman Kodak without Alaris in the middle.

 

[koraks]

which implies to me that it is not motion picture film

Ah, an optimist

 

[pentaxuser]

What was the price asked for each of them, Agulliver?

Thanks

pentaxuser

 

[Flighter]

What was the price asked for each of them, Agulliver?

Thanks

pentaxuser

£14.95 12.46 for 36 exposures, same price for 100, 400 and 800 ASA.

Edited as I realised the £12.46 price shown was exclusive of VAT at 20%.

 

[MattKing]

The description on the website says the film is "Inspired by motion picture film..." which implies to me that it is not motion picture film, but has some of the qualities of motion picture film. If it is respooled motion picture film, it would be just the latest example in a long line of prevarication that is rampant in the respooled film space.

The film that Cinestill markets is an Eastman Kodak motion picture camera film designed for ECN-2 processing, modified by Eastman Kodak at Cinestill's request, by manufacturing it without the normally added remjet backing. Kodak sells industrial length rolls of it to Cinestill, and Cinestill takes responsibility for edge printing and the rest of the finishing/confectioning.
I'm not sure who does the perforating, but I expect that it is Kodak.
"Inspired by motion picture film" may not be as accurate as "A modified version of motion picture film", but it seems close enough.

 

[pentaxuser]

Thanks, Flighter. £14.95 is about the same as Portra and quite a bit more expensive than the likes of Ultramax 400 from AgPhotographic so not particularly cheap, especially for what you get which sounds like what may be a cinema film

It just seems to me that this is jumping on a bandwagon called let's jump on it while it lasts and consumers seem to have accepted that you pay a lot for any colour film so we'll see what the market will bear

pentaxuser

 

[Flighter]

Reports on Facebook that Silverprint, who were selling this film, went into administration on Monday, 17 April.

 

[pentaxuser]

Reports on Facebook that Silverprint, who were selling this film, went into administration on Monday, 17 April.

I don't suppose it says why it went into Administration, does it. If it poor business administration that's one thing but if it is linked to what may be a decline in analogue business that much more worrying

Thanks

pentaxuser

 

[Flighter]

I don't know, I'm not on Facebook so only have what I have seen on another site which had the following quote from FB:

This is with great sadness to officially announce that one of the UK's oldest and biggest analogue photography retailers - Silverprint - went into administration as of yesterday 17th April.

They were also responsible for keeping regions like South America and Africa stocked with analogue photography related products. They will be greatly missed and I hope no more shops of good repute will follow their fate.

 

[Anon Ymous]

Reports on Facebook that Silverprint, who were selling this film, went into administration on Monday, 17 April.

Their web site is no more...

 

[BrianShaw]

Their web site is no more...

Their Facebook page, facebook.com/silverprint/, is no more, also...

 

[pentaxuser]

The word "administration" has been used but I wonder if it is that or liquidation as a result of bankruptcy. Administration indicates that the company can continue trade under an Administrator so some hope of a revival exists whereas, or so it would seem, bankruptcy and insolvency are truly terminal

Not that this affects 99% of the members here being either U.S. or Europe based but the difference in which state Silverprint finds itself may help indicate if there is trouble in store for the photographic analogue market at least here in the U.K. if not elsewhere

pentaxuser

 

[BrianShaw]

The word "administration" has been used but I wonder if it is that or liquidation as a result of bankruptcy. Administration indicates that the company can continue trade under an Administrator so some hope of a revival exists whereas, or so it would seem, bankruptcy and insolvency are truly terminal

Not that this affects 99% of the members here being either U.S. or Europe based but the difference in which state Silverprint finds itself may help indicate if there is trouble in store for the photographic analogue market at least here in the U.K. if not elsewhere

pentaxuser

It is bizarre; I agree. Their demise also may affect Africa as they supply film (and maybe other photo goods) to that continent. Time will tell…

 

[faberryman]

"Inspired by motion picture film" may not be as accurate as "A modified version of motion picture film", but it seems close enough.

I think it is intentionally deceptive.