Trust me the Universal 45 IS ADDITIVE. The CMY controls are used to make it easier to understand. Under the hood there's red, green, and blue fixed dichroic filters. The machine turns on appropriate lamps to expose the paper with RGB light . With the VC setup you substitute a clear filter for the center red filter. The green and blue lamps produce the appropriate light depending on contrast selected. When switched to graded paper mode only the center white light (clear filter ) is used. The same white lamp is used for focusing. When focusing with the color controller all 3 lamps come on, somewhat dimmed, to produce white light.You have two different Beseler heads confused! The Beseler Minolta 45A is indeed additiive.
The Universal 45 head is SUBTTRACTIVE...both the variable contrast controller and the color controller have C-Y-M values
I purchased on new about 25 years ago, and printed color with the Universal 45 with color controller
I haven't, but please let us know what you think if you buy one:HAS ANYONE SEEN OR USED THIS NEW HEAD?
I'm very curious if this has any internal moving parts. How it's actually set up inside. This is when I miss photography magazines. I would love to see a review.I haven't, but please let us know what you think if you buy one:
Makes Heiland
plus
which totals around $2,200.00, seem "affordable" in comparison.
Mike, you already got the answer to that directly from Beseler:I'm very curious if this has any internal moving parts. How it's actually set up inside...
I'm not entirely sure. I have a Beseler Universal 45 colorhead, the color version has red, green and blue dichroic filters in front of it's own EVW bulb. The computer controller adjusts the light, no moving parts to mimic with RGB the CMY that the operator calls for.Mike, you already got the answer to that directly from Beseler:
If it has dichro filters, which those rotating knobs are consistent with, it's got moving parts inside, just like Beseler's prior Dichro heads. I suspect the LED aspect is simply the "white" light source instead of using a halogen bulb.
They probably had a serious distaste for RGB sources, after they partnered with Minolta for the Beseler Minolta 45AI've used my old Dichro 45S for over 30 years and I had replace the optoisolator on it. But it still works. I'm surprised that it's LED and they're still using dichroic filters instead of using PWM technology and RGB LEDs?
I'm thinking about retrofitting my Dichro 45S with and LED. I already retrofitted a Xrite densitometer with an LED. Replacement peanut bulbs cost $600 each and I didn't want to pay for that much.They probably had a serious distaste for RGB sources, after they partnered with Minolta for the Beseler Minolta 45A
I got one of those in a batch of stuff. I never really tried using it. People who liked them really liked them. Maybe someday I will try. It sounds like a bug zapperThey probably had a serious distaste for RGB sources, after they partnered with Minolta for the Beseler Minolta 45A
Is that the one like in the photo below.?I'm not entirely sure. I have a Beseler Universal 45 colorhead, the color version has red, green and blue dichroic filters in front of it's own EVW bulb. The computer controller adjusts the light, no moving parts to mimic with RGB the CMY that the operator calls for.
Beseler has said that the knobs turn very easily, cost and reliability might have allowed Beseler to do this by some electronic means???
It's like every new car has radio knobs that spin all the way around. Crazy, I don't know.
It could just be a LED version of the old faithful? I doubt I will buy one. I think these are designed for schools. Totally simple,
Nope no led display, only 3 leds for light source.Is that the one like in the photo below.?
Oh...OK.Nope no led display, only 3 leds for light source.
That's one I've managed to avoid. Overly complicated.Oh...OK.
Do you have any experience with the type in the photo.?
I do not think i have ever seen one in use.
10-4...Thank YouThat's one I've managed to avoid. Overly complicated.
That's the one that you can use the D.A.T.A. modules. I didn't have the money to buy one new. My first dichro head was the DG, with the separate blower and the big flexible hose. Worked great. I bought it used one snowy evening from Roger at University Camera in Iowa City, used for 500 bucks.10-4...Thank You
If anybody uses one of these, and they want to talk about, here is your chance...........................
Sorry, i am relatively new to photography.That's the one that you can use the D.A.T.A. modules. I didn't have the money to buy one new. My first dichro head was the DG, with the separate blower and the big flexible hose. Worked great. I bought it used one snowy evening from Roger at University Camera in Iowa City, used for 500 bucks.
Both, IIRC, The first dichro head I had was a Beseler head. It had a stabilized 22V transformer that mounted to one of the crossbars. There's a spring wound steel tape, it pulled out of the transformer and attached to the upper truss to help the motor lift the head. It has 2 halogen lamps, and a separate blower motor. In their youth these things were bulletproof, at least mine was. No electronics.Sorry, i am relatively new to photography.
Was the DG one of the 23 models, or was that part of the 45 series.?
Thank You
OK............Interesting.Both, IIRC, The first dichro head I had was a Beseler head. It had a stabilized 22V transformer that mounted to one of the crossbars. There's a spring wound steel tape, it pulled out of the transformer and attached to the upper truss to help the motor lift the head. It has 2 halogen lamps, and a separate blower motor. In their youth these things were bulletproof, at least mine was. No electronics.
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