New batch of false colour "infrared" film

[keyofnight]

This sort of thing has been around for a long time. Look at Alexander Rodchenko's advice to photographers. A bit of iconoclasm isn't a bad thing is it?

I suspect not. (;

 

[steven_e007]

I really think it's wrong-headed to assume that "Lomo fans" are all somehow learning-disabled

I hoped I had made it clear that I was referring to the initial impression that someone whose prior experience of photography was exclusively digital might get when first encountering Lomography.

Many people today are convinced of digital's superiority in every way. Lomography, whilst being an excellent thing in the sense that it is fashionable with youngsters and introduces them to film, ironically may at first reinforce that stereotype. In that sense it is a strange ambassador for film. That is all I was saying - I even backed down on my use of the word 'misrepresenting', conceding it was maybe not the right word to use.

Of course the Lomo fans may then go on to learn more about film photography - I hope they do. If they don't - at least they are buying film and having fun using it - which is absolutely fine by me, too.

But please, no way did I imply that Lomo fans were 'learning-disabled' - nor would I do so. I think that comment was a bit out of order.

 

[kb3lms]

I am thinking about trying some. Never shot IR film and even though this is not the real thing it seems interesting enough to try. On a side note, I would not be surprised if Kodak is making it. How many other manufacturers would be able to tweak color film to order? A few weeks ago I got some of the Lomo 100 speed 35mm. I haven't shot any yet but it is clearly Kodak, including the fact that it says "Made in USA." AFAIK, that means Kodak.

 

[Simonh82]

That is interesting that Kodak are now making their 100 speed colour neg. Until recently it was Farrania but that supply must have dried up. There 100 speed slide film was also kodak produced (Elitechrome 100EB) but that dried up a good few months ago.

 

[Athiril]

Honestly I just wish they could have put IR sensitive dye in the red layer and shift the red and green forward one layer and put the yellow layer at the front.

Then we have a similarish film to EIR. Sigh.

 

[ME Super]

I think the name "Lomochrome" is a bit misleading. Yes, it is intended to imitate Aerochrome and EIR, but "chrome" in a film name has always meant transparency, while "color" has always meant color negative. This is negative film, so IMHO it should've been named "Lomocolor" or "Lomocolor IR" or something of that nature, not "Lomochrome."

Sigh... If it was either reversal film or wasn't $7+/roll for color negative film, I would be tempted to try it. Who knows, I may try it one day but not yet I have too much other stuff I want to do when it gets warm weather here in currently chilly Central Illinois.

 

[bsdunek]

How about Verichrome Pan - not only a negative film, but B&W to boot.

 

[Maris]

I'd love to see some results but, like nearly all C41 film, the outcome won't be what the Lomographer shot. It will be what the automatic printing machine down at the lab delivers after bursting its boiler trying to correct all those bad colour shifts.

 

[AgX]

I think the name "Lomochrome" is a bit misleading. Yes, it is intended to imitate Aerochrome and EIR, but "chrome" in a film name has always meant transparency, while "color" has always meant color negative.

As said "-chrome" was also used for spectrally sensitized b&w films.
And "-color" was used for transparency films starting with additive materials, over the first modern substantive transparency film "Agfacolor-new" to further films.

This may be of no relevance to most of the Lomo clientele, but should be corrected here for historical reasons.

 

[john341264]

What I find more interesting about this is the fact that it appears that the people who pre-order this film are financing the making of it. As much as I would like to try some, paying for something that's may not be made yet (and is very expensive for what it is at that) there is no way of guaranteeing that you will ever see the film or the money back, a lot can happen from now till July there's no way of really knowing that there even going to be here still trading then.

 

[steven_e007]

What I find more interesting about this is the fact that it appears that the people who pre-order this film are financing the making of it. As much as I would like to try some, paying for something that's may not be made yet (and is very expensive for what it is at that) there is no way of guaranteeing that you will ever see the film or the money back, a lot can happen from now till July there's no way of really knowing that there even going to be here still trading then.

But on the other hand.... What a great way to pursuade a manufacturer to produce something new.

Simon at Harman has just told us that they have decided not to produce a true IR film as the market is to small to justify the development cost.... Imagine if there was a movement like Lomography but dedicated to APUG type customers that could stump up enough cash to commission a special order of significant size? Might still not tempt Harman (who's R and D costs are probably huge since their quality control is so high). But Foma or a Chinese company???

 

[ME Super]

As said "-chrome" was also used for spectrally sensitized b&w films.
And "-color" was used for transparency films starting with additive materials, over the first modern substantive transparency film "Agfacolor-new" to further films.

This may be of no relevance to most of the Lomo clientele, but should be corrected here for historical reasons.

I stand corrected, so I will rephrase that. "-chrome" has been used largely for color reversal films since I got interested in photography in the late 70's, and "-color" has been used largely for color negative films during that same time frame.

Hmm, I wonder... If I sent a roll of HP5+ to DR5 for reversal processing, could I say it was "Ilfochrome HP5+"?

 

[bsdunek]

False colors aren't new.....there were some very bizarre effects filters available at one time from the likes of Hoya and (particularly) Cokin.

Yes. This inspired me to dig out my old Spiratone 'Vibra-Color' filters. Anybody remember them? I haven't used them for a long time because I do mostly B&W, but am going to see what I can do with them now. Maybe on my Holga ...

 

[Brac]

As said "-chrome" was also used for spectrally sensitized b&w films.
And "-color" was used for transparency films starting with additive materials, over the first modern substantive transparency film "Agfacolor-new" to further films.

This may be of no relevance to most of the Lomo clientele, but should be corrected here for historical reasons.

I'm old enough to remember when almost every major manufacturer had a black & white ortho film (non-red sensitive) as their low price offering, usually only in rollfilm sizes, so there was Kodak Verichrome, Ilford Selochrome, Ensign Ultrachrome and many many others. Then at some point Kodak changed their Verichrome emulsion to a pan one and added the Pan to the Verichrome. It was at that point that most surviving manufacturers dropped their ortho rollfilms.

 

[Brac]

Personally I'm not too bothered about this particular film but I am glad to see any new film being made. I'm more excited that a company as dynamic as Lomography is now producing its own film. If anyone is going to be bringing out new slide films it will be Lomography. Admittedly the focus will probably be on cross processing them but watch this space for new E6 film.

I only hope is that if they develop a new emulsion, they make one which gives good results when processed in E6 and not just for giving pleasing results in C41. I also hope that they pay some attention to quality control.

I might also speculate that you will get a C41 film with strong saturated colours and high contrast that might work for landscapes.

I wonder where they are making this film?

Lomograph recently did bring out a new E6 slide film but for the 110 size. Intended primarily for cross-processing in C41, it can be used as a conventional slide film. I haven't bought any and have no idea who made it.

 

[LJSLATER]

Ugh, Lomography. I try really hard not to hate those guys, but man....

I am genuinely excited for LomoChrome Purple, and will probably buy some after I see more example shots, but I'm afraid I must take strong exception to the way they're marketing it as a replacement for Aerochrome. There are going to be people that buy this film thinking it's an infrared slide film and they're going to be unpleasantly surprised.

 

[Diapositivo]

Whoever buys film belongs to my religion even if not to my parish.

 

[LJSLATER]

I meant I dislike Lomography the company (or at least the way they market their products), not members of the Lomography movement.

 

[ME Super]

I was just thinking... Aerochrome didn't require an infrared filter (like a Hoya R72) to shoot. Or a tripod. Most just slapped a yellow filter over the lens to block the blue light from coming in. So if they made the "red" layer IR sensitive with a cyan dye, the "green" layer red sensitive with a magenta dye, the "blue" layer green sensitive with a yellow dye, then put the yellow filter layer on over that, then the filter would be built-in and the user wouldn't have to remember the filter that way either.

Oh and I checked the page the OP linked to, and they've sold out of this emulsion already. I guess they were doing 4,000 rolls of 120 and 3,500 rolls of 35mm.

 

[ME Super]

Was snooping for Rollei Retro 80s as infrared pictures on the net and stumbled across this: http://www.lomography.com/photos/17222351 which has a big banner across the top: "LOMOCHROME PURPLE brand new batch, only limited quantity available, so act fast." It seems they are expecting another batch to be available Jan-Feb. 2014 and are now accepting pre-orders.

Though I am not typically a lomography shooter, or a C-41 shooter, I just might push the button and order a few rolls of 120 for my toy 6x6 camera. It seems to be in the lomo spirit to use such a film in such an inexpensive camera. (Though I'll have to respool to 620 spools in order to use it in my camera, but hey, why not?) Then take the best ones and send to Dwayne's to have them made into slides.

Here's a direct link for a 5-pack of the 120 film: http://shop.lomography.com/us/films/color-negative-film/lomochrome-purple-400-120-5pack
And for the 35mm shooter in your life, a 5-pack of the 135-36: http://shop.lomography.com/us/films/color-negative-film/lomochrome-purple-400-35mm-5pack