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MattKing

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I recently purchased my first digital camera.

If I understand it correctly, originally it had a list price of about $700.00.

It offers manually selectable f stops.

It offers manually selectable exposure modification - +1.5 to -1.5 stops, on a manual dial.

It has a PC socket, so can be used with some, but not all of my older electronic flashes.

It has a relatively small screen, and viewing the image on it is a bit of a challenge, but still informative.

It came with a CF card, which I expect was large in it's time, and at maximum resolution has enough room for about 24 exposures.

I recently purchased a new CF card for it. They are a little bit harder to find, but at maximum resolution it holds about 1024 exposures :smile:.

The new CF card cost me about $20.00.

It is a Kodak DC 4800 camera, I paid $50.00 for it, and here is the link to the auction:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280232252113

It appears to have a fairly decent close focus capability, and a reasonable wide angle capability.

It also has an optical viewfinder.

So, with the PC socket, manual exposure override, close focus capability, wide angle capability, and optical viewfinder, it fulfils my major needs in a digital point and shoot.

I can shoot and email, I can post to APUG or ebay or craigslist, and I can do quick and dirty documentation.

It is clear to me that this is useful!

I'm not going to use this for anything that I might want to print in my bathroom/darkroom.

I guess I would have more problem with that question if it had a 9 megapixel sensor, rather than 3.1.

Clearly, I don't have a desire to have the latest, but I would argue that the PC socket, the manually selectable (on a dial) f/stop and the manally selectable (on a dial) exposure compensation and the price makes this the greater, if not the greatest.

Matt
 

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Thanks everybody, I hope the conversation about Arista Premium 400 was useful. I learned a lot. I think this film is a solid performer whether or not it turns out to be Tri-X (I think it is.) I ordered a 100' roll of the 100 speed film and look forward to checking it out. I think in the long run having these quality b&w films available at a good price point can be very good for analog photography as it encourages people to shoot more.
BTW - please do not just assume I am a digital basher. I also have a D2Hs and shoot so much with it I got a 12-24 dedicated just to that camera. I teach Photoshop and working with RAW at a major university. I love digital. But, I still like the way film sees light too. It is just different.
~Steve
 

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BTW - please do not just assume I am a digital basher. I also have a D2Hs and shoot so much with it I got a 12-24 dedicated just to that camera. I teach Photoshop and working with RAW at a major university. I love digital. But, I still like the way film sees light too. It is just different.
~Steve

Well, I did assume you were a digital basher. I'm sorry. We are in agreement that "It is just different."

Can you imagine uploading film images for such a utilitarian purpose as eBay?
 

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I recently purchased my first digital camera.

Matt

Until you got to the word Kodak, I thought you were desribing a Minolta D or A series!

Those external manual controls, man, I love them. For Konica to buy the Minolta name and then kill it within a year is one of the great photographic travesties.
 

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Hey Matt. Does this mean you are getting rid of your analog photography equipment and go fully digital ? I am looking for larger format cameras.

What is the line about "cold dead hands..."?

It applies to my film cameras :smile:.

Although I certainly should consider reducing the collection.

Matt
 

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1st experiment w/ Arista Premium 400

I too decided to give Arista Premium a try - 2 bucks for a 36-frame roll of what is supposed to be repackaged Tri-X is too good to pass by. I shot a roll of it this weekend (@400) and developed it in Rodinal (1+50, 13 minutes). Here's an example of what I got:

marina-vi.jpg

The lighting was kinda flat, so the scan I got was kinda flat as well. I will have to add a lot of contrast when I actually print it. The grain structure does look like Tri-X. One potential difference that I noticed is that the film REALLY curled. Bad. Took a day in a book before I could even scan the damn thing. The thing that's really annoying, however, is the scratch on the emulsion. I know I didn't put it there.

Let's see how the other rolls go. For now, I'm cautiously optimistic.
 

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Interesting. I bought a couple bricks of this and have processed a few rolls. No trouble with curling at all.
 

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In order to sell the product at a lower price, the manufacturer "may" be selling film without an anti-curling back coating to freestyle, and freestyle may be cutting and packaging the film themselves, which could possibly account for the scratch. You still "get what you pay for". The image granularity looks like Tri-X in Rodinal.
 

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Just curious, are you sure it was Arista Premium you bought and not Arista edu.Ultra (rebranded FOMA)? I know there's been some talk here about curl with the FOMA.

Anyway, if the Premium is in fact rebranded Kodak, we must be in some bizarro world - I checked Freestyle's site, the Arista Premium 400 36 exp. roll is $1.99 and the Arista edu.Ultra 400 36 exp. roll is $2.79.
 

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Just curious, are you sure it was Arista Premium you bought and not Arista edu.Ultra (rebranded FOMA)? I know there's been some talk here about curl with the FOMA.

Anyway, if the Premium is in fact rebranded Kodak, we must be in some bizarro world - I checked Freestyle's site, the Arista Premium 400 36 exp. roll is $1.99 and the Arista edu.Ultra 400 36 exp. roll is $2.79.

The package says "premium" :smile: And the grain DOES look like Tri-X.
 

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I've done the Premium 100 & 400 in Rodinal 1-50 with very little curl at all. Arista Universal 1-4 fixer mix then I clip my to my cutain rod near a window. The grain is very much like Tri-X. purple and slight curl nothing that needs flattening
 

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I just finished drying a roll of the Arista Premium 100, one of Ilford Delta 100, and a roll of Foma 100, all 35mm. The Arista Premium has a fair curve across the width. The Ilford Delta 100 is flat, and the Foma 100 is remarkably flat.

The Foma film I have had curling with is in the 120 size, curling mightily along its length.
 

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i have issues with scratching this film as well. that said, i think that this film is worth the price; it seems to be fairly forgiving.
 

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I haven't done any pushing or pulling with this film but that will be next on my list of "things that MUST be done". I didn't like the look with D-76. Rodinal seems get the best look for it (my needs anyway). Its definitley has a place in my list of favorite films.
 

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Just curious, are you sure it was Arista Premium you bought and not Arista edu.Ultra (rebranded FOMA)? I know there's been some talk here about curl with the FOMA.

Anyway, if the Premium is in fact rebranded Kodak, we must be in some bizarro world - I checked Freestyle's site, the Arista Premium 400 36 exp. roll is $1.99 and the Arista edu.Ultra 400 36 exp. roll is $2.79.

Arista.EDU Ultra, the rebadged Foma material, in 35 mm is flatter than flat. There is no curl at all. Un roll film (120) there is some curl, but it is quite manageable. Tri-X, direct from Kodak, in 35 mm, has a tendency towards slight cupping.
 

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I haven't done any pushing or pulling with this film but that will be next on my list of "things that MUST be done". I didn't like the look with D-76. Rodinal seems get the best look for it (my needs anyway). Its definitley has a place in my list of favorite films.

Yeah. @400 it's way to neat and clean for my tastes. I will shoot a roll @800 and @1600 in the next few days and see if it works better for me.
 

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Yeah. @400 it's way to neat and clean for my tastes. I will shoot a roll @800 and @1600 in the next few days and see if it works better for me.
Just tried a rl Prem. 100 @ 80 Looks like VERY high contrast. Printing Tomorrow
 
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