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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
930 AM PST TUE NOV 20 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SEATTLE HAS ISSUED A WIND
ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM PST THIS EVENING.

* SOME AFFECTED LOCATIONS... SEATTLE...TACOMA...EVERETT...
OLYMPIA...CENTRALIA...BREMERTON...AND BELLEVUE.

* TIMING...GUSTY WINDS WILL DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE
PASSAGE OF A VIGOROUS FRONT. THE STRONGEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO
OCCUR BETWEEN 1 PM AND 5 PM PST.

* WIND...INCREASING FROM THE SOUTH AT 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 45
MPH.

* IMPACTS...WINDS THIS STRONG CAN SNAP SMALL TREE BRANCHES...
TOPPLE SMALL OR SHALLOW ROOTED TREES...AND CAUSE LOCAL POWER
OUTAGES.


We just now lost power in the building where I'm working due to severe wind gusts. The building was shaking. There is torrential rain falling outside. And it's damned dark out there...

:sad:

Scotty! Beam me to sunny Nanaimo!!

Ken
 

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Went out into the wet wild woods today. Between squalls. Took a few piccys with the Crown Graphic. Middle of the day and the shadow areas didn't register on my spot meter, the bright spots were 3. Looooong exposures on HP5.

My usual November consolation - picking edible mushrooms in those wet wild woods - is a bust this year. September and October were too hot and dry. The chanterelles are all hiding.
 

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Yep, the weather turned ***********, put your own word in here, if it's not rain it wind, if it's not one of these it's both. Oh joy. Remember those comments not long ago about how long will the hot spell last? Until November.
 

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It was mixed sun and cloud and light rain in Point Roberts Washington this afternoon. Back in BC, there was a beautiful rainbow to the east (at about 3:00 p.m.)
 

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Bright, sunny, and very very windy this afternoon. I think I'll skip raking until April.
 

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SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
435 PM PST MON DEC 3 2012

...HEAVY RAINFALL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS AND ABOVE NORMAL
RAINFALL OVER THE LAST TWO TO 3 WEEKS WILL LEAD TO INCREASE
RISK OF LANDSLIDES IN WESTERN WASHINGTON...


RAINFALL OF 2 TO 5 INCHES IN THE LOWLANDS OVER THE PAST WEEK HAS
INCREASED SOIL MOISTURE TO HIGH LEVELS ACROSS WESTERN WASHINGTON.
HEAVY RAINFALL OF 1 TO 2 INCHES IS EXPECTED OVERNIGHT TONIGHT AND
INTO TOMORROW. THIS AMOUNT OF RAIN WILL PUT EXTRA PRESSURE ON
SOIL INSTABILITY...

:sad:

And so it goes. Only eight more months until August...

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Oh lord!! LOL :laugh: probably a Nikonos is a better investment
 

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Could be worse. Out on the Olympic Peninsula the rain gauges are calibrated not in inches, but in feet. The massive Lake Quinault Lodge rain gauge located in the Quinault Rainforest averages 15-feet (4.6-meters) each year.

As a side note, a biologist I knew once told me that because of our never-ending rain a temperate rainforest, like the western edges of the US Pacific Northwest and British Columbia further to the north, has a higher aggregate total biomass per cubic meter than even a tropical rainforest like that in the Amazon Basin.

Because of this if you've ever done any true wilderness backpacking here you learn real quick that it's almost impossible to wander off-trail very far. Often even for only a few feet. We never had to worry too much about the Boy Scout kids getting lost on overnight hikes. Just too impenetrable. Only one way in and one way back out.

Having once worked as a field geologist, it fell to me to teach the boys some rudimentary land navigation skills using a magnetic compass. Pretty useless skill set, though, when all one can do is follow the trail forward and backward...

Ken
 
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MF,
Are you on your Seattle trip, or have you already taken the trip?
 
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No Marc, sorry I cancelled that, these guys scared me :tongue: so I went to eastern sierra instead. Snow works better for me heheh.
This year I won't visit Seattle.
 

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I understand!
With continuing weather anomalies blamed on 'global warming,' trying to pre-plan a trip based on
historical weather norms, or long range forecasts, is becoming increasingly difficult.

I just read that Chicago may break an 18 year snow record tomorrow.
Not a record of accumulated snowfall...but a record of 'snow less' days.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/..._n_2267884.html?1355085227&utm_hp_ref=chicago

Well...hope you had a nice trip anyway. For your next Seattle trip, try for September.
I've always had great luck with Seattle weather around the autumnal equinox.

Marc
 

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Looking to visit Seattle and probably the butchart garden in Victoria by end of Nov. I'm thinking it will probably be overcast so I'm planning to bring 400 iso film bw and color. Should I just bring chrome for color and forget the negative?
Do they have good bus system there? Or is it better to rent a car? Does Seattle normally have better photo ops than Victoria BC?

I did not read the other posts, I did visit Seattle and shot on Kodachrome 64 in 2010, the shots were fine ok chrome, especially if you visit the music project building (the crazy ugly/beautiful multi colored building near the space needle). Bring higher ASA film for the inside areas of the fish market and make sure to find "the troll under the bridge" and use high speed film for that.

This guy...

bu4apupa.jpg


It's past November so this may not help, but perhaps you've pushed things back and it's helpful...

The bus system is... Functional, interesting and frightening, don't rely on people to be helpful, the bus riding part of society is very apathetic and are sometimes like walking zombies with no push to better themselves or try hard because of social structures in the area, it can be very depressing and sad.

The coffee is excellent and the chocolate is good too.

Good luck!


~Stone

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Man, you guys make it sound depressing here. Granted, Seattle is not at its best in November, dark, grey, and wet...

The downtown core is a busy place regardless of the weather (except weekend mornings), but not really architecturally interesting until you get out to Pioneer Square. Then wander up to the Farmer's Market. Avoid the waterfront on Saturday mornings, nothing's open except the cruise ship terminal, disgorging visitors with glum expressions. You may safely give the Seattle Center a miss altogether.

The University of Washington campus is worth a stroll, as is Capitol Hill. Jimi Hendrix is buried in the cemetery at Volunteer Park.

Some interesting old buildings and urban decay in Georgetown, plus the Museum of Flight is at nearby Boeing Field.

Ballard is a nice place to visit, but not exactly photogenic. Nearby are the Hiram M. Chittenden Locks, the fish ladder, and the Shilshole Bay Marina.

I think Victoria has more photo ops, but then I've only been there a handful of times and not for very long. I've never been up island, I would dearly love to travel the coast some time.

It is depressing, I was there 3 days for my trip and when I landed in Colorado from there I literally cried, I'm this dude in a rental car crying from joy of being out of such a miserable place lol, I'm glad you enjoy it but I hope I never go back, I'd fear I might kill myself or something...


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Along with the above image, here's one more from the trip, not all the images were good but a few images I got were nice at least.

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~Stone

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It is depressing, I was there 3 days for my trip and when I landed in Colorado from there I literally cried, I'm this dude in a rental car crying from joy of being out of such a miserable place lol, I'm glad you enjoy it but I hope I never go back, I'd fear I might kill myself or something...

I've read that Washington State has one of the higher suicide rates in the US.

:sad:

And that the Puget Sound region also has—paradoxically—one of the highest incidence rates of skin cancer in the country. This is due to the relatively few days each year where the sun does shine. Seems it's so rare that when it does actually happen everyone runs outside fearful they'll never see it again, and ends up getting sunburned by refusing to come back in. (*Source: My personal physician, who used the term the "episodic" to describe the phenomenon.)

:sad:

My doctor further related that vitamin D deficiency is a huge problem here, also due to the chronic lack of any sustained sunshine. He said he and the other physicians routinely recommend supplements to their patients. And that low levels of vitamin D have been linked to increased levels of depression. (See first sentence above...)

:sad:

I just checked the NWS forcast. Only cloudy tomorrow! But rain, or a chance of rain, for at least the next six days out after that. There was some unexpected weak sun yesterday. But it only lasted for about an hour. Maybe less. I dunno. I sneezed and missed most of it...

:wink:

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I've read that Washington State has one of the higher suicide rates in the US.

:sad:

And that the Puget Sound region also has—paradoxically—one of the highest incidence rates of skin cancer in the country. This is due to the relatively few days each year where the sun does shine. Seems it's so rare that when it does actually happen everyone runs outside fearful they'll never see it again, and ends up getting sunburned by refusing to come back in. (*Source: My personal physician, who used the term the "episodic" to describe the phenomenon.)

:sad:

My doctor further related that vitamin D deficiency is a huge problem here, also due to the chronic lack of any sustained sunshine. He said he and the other physicians routinely recommend supplements to their patients. And that low levels of vitamin D have been linked to increased levels of depression. (See first sentence above...)

:sad:

I just checked the NWS forcast. Only cloudy tomorrow! But rain, or a chance of rain, for at least the next six days out after that. There was some unexpected weak sun yesterday. But it only lasted for about an hour. Maybe less. I dunno. I sneezed and missed most of it...

:wink:

Ken

Thanks Ken,

The sad part is I was only there 2.5 days and both days were clear blue skies for about 3 hours mid day each day. I was very lucky (mid December) but it didn't stop the feeling. I think it was the absorption of the sadness from empathy from others, or something... It's never happened before... Also, Colorado is so beautiful in comparison that may has played a part.

And so it goes...


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I really like Seattle.

But then, I am acclimatized to the weather, and I spend a good chunk of my Seattle time in the film, darkroom and lighting section of Glazer's.
 

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I really like Seattle.

But then, I am acclimatized to the weather, and I spend a good chunk of my Seattle time in the film, darkroom and lighting section of Glazer's.

I wish they'd move the used film cameras there. Then I'd have no reason to cross the street.
 

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I wish they'd move the used film cameras there. Then I'd have no reason to cross the street.

I agree, although I do like to look at the tripods, bags and sometimes the filters too.
 

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I love Seattle. I was there for a week, back in October. Sunny skies every day, which kind of bummed me out some due to the contrast, but what can you do. When I got there, my buddy told me, they up to like 25 days straight without rain. Water falls were so-so due to no rain.

Can't wait to go back. It was my 2nd trip up there..
 

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I love Seattle. I was there for a week, back in October. Sunny skies every day, which kind of bummed me out some due to the contrast, but what can you do. When I got there, my buddy told me, they up to like 25 days straight without rain. Water falls were so-so due to no rain.

Can't wait to go back. It was my 2nd trip up there..

Did you have a rental car? I think taking public transit was what got me, so depressing, lol


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I agree, although I do like to look at the tripods, bags and sometimes the filters too.

I would too, if I knew where they were. And please don't tell me. One thing I hate about Kenmore Camera is their used gear selection and their assortment of bags. Every time I go in there I end up buying one or the other.

Every time I visit Glazers I come out with almost $200 worth of film and chems. Which wouldn't be a bad thing if I shot more frequently...
 

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...I spend a good chunk of my Seattle time in the film, darkroom and lighting section of Glazer's.

And I do look for you every time I'm there.

That would be a good plan, too, except for that pesky part of not exactly knowing what you look like...

:wink:

Ken
 
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