Need advice for Seattle

[rpsawin]

While in Seattle make time for the Pike Place Market. Rain or shine there are lots of photo op's and plenty of places to eat, drink and just hang.

Best regards,

Bob

 

[MFstooges]

Thank you guys for the advice. 3 days in Nov seems like too risky to expect friendly weather so I am postponing.
Ken, that tour sounds really interesting I'll make sure to book when I'm there.

 

[anikin]

Oh MFstooges,

We did not really mean to dissuade you from coming. Seattle is fun any time of the year, and it's worth a visit no matter what the forecasters say (and they all lie anyway). I love to visit Seattle in absolutely any weather. Please understand, we live here in Pacific NW all the time, and after a few months of vitamin D deficiency we all get grumpy about the weather. But it really is not THAT bad, especially if it's just for three days

Eugene.

 

[MattKing]

Naturally, since the OP started this thread, we have had 3 days of mostly sunny weather here in the Vancouver area (100 miles or so north of Seattle, and north of Victoria as well).

 

[Brian C. Miller]

And tomorrow the forecast is for sunny all day Saturday. Then next week just Wednesday and Thursday will have some sun.

So, it's quite variable. But for the most sun, you'll need to come during our hit-or-miss summer, which may be summer, and it may not. Depends. We don't know.

 

[Marc B.]

Sorry, but the Seattle Underground Tour only operates during the peak summer vacation months.
Basically, Memorial Day weekend, through Labor Day weekend, (last week in May, through 1st week of Sep).
I looked at the schedule in the link, but that has not been my experience. Better call for accuracy.

Great 'street photo' ops along the Pier walk. Pike Place Market was mentioned, too.
Good weather or bad, I could spend a day or two, shooting pictures at those nearby water front attractions.

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Naturally, since the OP started this thread, we have had 3 days of mostly sunny weather here in the Vancouver area (100 miles or so north of Seattle, and north of Victoria as well).

And tomorrow the forecast is for sunny all day Saturday. Then next week just Wednesday and Thursday will have some sun.

So, it's quite variable. But for the most sun, you'll need to come during our hit-or-miss summer, which may be summer, and it may not. Depends. We don't know.

And as I write this only 24 hours after both of the above posts... it's 28F/-2C outside and snowing lightly.

It is what it is, until it isn't. Go figure...



Ken

 

[Brian C. Miller]

Erwin Schrödinger shouldn't have given an example using a cat. He should have used the weather!

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Somewhere Werner Heisenberg is smiling...



Ken

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

And here come those ritual November floods I was referring to...



From the National Weather Service today, this Special Weather Statement was posted for the Puget Sound region of Western Washington State. That means Seattle and outlying areas:

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
313 PM PST THU NOV 15 2012

...A MAJOR CHANGE IN THE WEATHER IS COMING THIS WEEKEND...

A SERIES OF STRONG WEATHER SYSTEMS WILL ARRIVE IN WESTERN
WASHINGTON BEGINNING SATURDAY. EACH SYSTEM WILL BRING RAIN...HEAVY
AT TIMES...WIND TO MAINLY THE COAST AND NORTH INTERIOR...AND SNOW
TO THE MOUNTAINS.

RAIN...
RAIN WILL DEVELOP LATE FRIDAY NIGHT OR SATURDAY MORNING. RAINFALL
AMOUNTS WILL BE HEAVY AT TIMES OVER THE COAST AND OLYMPICS. ALL
AREAS WILL GET SOME RAIN. ANOTHER WAVE WILL KEEP THE RAIN COMING
TO MAINLY WESTERN SECTIONS SATURDAY NIGHT. ANOTHER VERY WET FRONT
ARRIVES SUNDAY AFTERNOON...AND ANOTHER SYSTEM ARRIVES MONDAY. THE
PATTERN REMAINS WET THROUGH AT LEAST THURSDAY. ALL IN ALL A VERY
WET PERIOD IS COMING. THE SNOW LEVEL WILL BE HIGH ENOUGH THAT
SOME FLOODING ON THE MOST FLOOD PRONE RIVERS IS LIKELY.

WIND...
BREEZY OR WINDY CONDITIONS ARE LIKELY WITH THE FIRST TWO MAJOR
SYSTEMS...SATURDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. AT THIS TIME HIGH WIND IS NOT
FORECAST...BUT PARTS OF THE COAST AND THE NORTH INTERIOR WILL
LIKELY GET WIND THAT IS JUST BELOW HIGH WIND...SUSTAINED WINDS OF
20 TO 35 MPH WITH GUSTS 45 TO 55 MPH. SUBSEQUENT SYSTEMS DO NOT
LOOK QUITE AS WINDY...BUT THERE IS USUALLY AT LEAST SOME WIND WITH
FRONTS.

SNOW...
THE SNOW LEVEL WILL FLUCTUATE BETWEEN 3000 AND 5000 FEET OVER THE
NEXT WEEK WHILE COPIOUS PRECIPITATION FALLS. AT THIS POINT IT
SEEMS LIKE A SURE BET THAT THE REMAINING OPEN HIGH PASS...
WASHINGTON PASS ON THE NORTH CASCADES HIGHWAY...WILL RECEIVE HEAVY
SNOW. PLACES LIKE PARADISE ON MOUNT RAINIER AND MT BAKER WILL ALSO
GET HEAVY SNOW. THE LOWER PASSES...SNOQUALMIE...STEVENS...AND
WHITE...WILL PROBABLY GET A MIXTURE OF PRECIPITATION TYPES
INCLUDING SNOW...RAIN...AND FREEZING RAIN. HEAVY SNOW IN ONE OR
MORE OF THESE PASSES AT TIMES IS POSSIBLE. TRAVEL IS LIKELY TO BE
ADVERSELY AFFECTED.

WEATHER MODELS HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH TIMING AND OTHER DETAILS WHEN
THE PATTERN IS AS PROGRESSIVE AS THIS APPEARS TO BE. WITH AN
IMPRESSIVE SERIES OF STORMS HEADED OUR WAY...THERE SEEMS LITTLE
DOUBT THAT WESTERN WASHINGTON IS HEADED THE SORT OF WET AND
WINDY WEATHER THAT IS COMMON TO LATE NOVEMBER.

Methinks the time for sustained darkroom work has once again arrived...



Ken

 

[sly]

Yes indeedy! November is a good darkroom month. I was out with the Crown Graphic today and have an evening of film developing planned.
It's a good month for studio work too.....

 

[flatulent1]

Sure wish I had a darkroom...

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Just step outside!



Ken

 

[John_Nikon_F]

Heh, the rain won't be here until later Friday... Still have a few hours of dryish weather.

-J

 

[Steve Smith]

Bring a plastic baggie for your camera...

Why do Americans use the word baggie for bag? Is it a make or trade name?


Steve.

 

[Marc B.]

Is it a make or trade name?

A little bit of both.
These 'baggies,' often with twist-ties or a 'zip-lock' closure, are
available in sizes from 4cm X 6cm out to about 30cm X 35cm.
(One ounce, to one gallon).

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[Steve Smith]

I have searched for some Seattle underground pictures. That is fascinating.

There was something similar near to me but on a much smaller scale. Due to the building of a bridge to cross a railway, a couple of buildings had their ground floor buried to allow the road to rise. A few years ago the building's wall started to move so they excavated around it and put in a new suspended pavement (sidewalk to our US friends). Whilst the work was going on, it was interesting to see the old ground level and the bricked up doors and windows in the ground floor.

Obviously not on the scale of Seattle but still interesting.


Steve.

 

[mopar_guy]

Just step outside!



Ken

I like to look at the glass as half full. We should be getting a few nice days in only seven or eight months.

 

[flatulent1]

'Baggie' is a trade name that has become a ubiquitous term, much like our use of the trade name Kleenex to denote facial tissue of any brand. (On a side note, why doesn't Kleenex produce toilet paper?)

I am not going to let the weather dictate what I can or cannot do this year, by golly. I am going to invest in a decent rain cover for the camera (as well as one for myself) and not let a little water stop me. Granted, we're expecting deluge after deluge this next week, and I do have some reading to catch up with...

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
844 AM PST MON NOV 19 2012

...HEAVY RAINFALL TODAY WILL LEAD TO INCREASED RISK OF LANDSLIDES
IN WESTERN WASHINGTON...

RAINFALL UP TO 1.5 INCHES...WITH LOCALIZED AMOUNTS NEAR 3 INCHES...
DURING THE 24 HOURS ENDING AT 8 AM PST HAS INCREASED THE SOIL
MOISTURE TO MODERATE LEVELS ACROSS WESTERN WASHINGTON. ADDITIONAL
RAINFALL OF UP TO 2 INCHES IS EXPECTED BY LATE THIS EVENING. THIS
AMOUNT OF RAIN WILL PUT EXTRA PRESSURE ON SOIL INSTABILITY...
LEADING TO A RISK OF SCATTERED LANDSLIDES.

CUMULATIVE RAINFALL OVER THE LAST WEEK HAS SOAKED SOILS TO THE
POINT WHERE THE WASHINGTON LANDSLIDE RISK LEVEL WAS MODERATE.
THE PREDICTED RAINFALL COULD RAISE THE LEVEL TO HIGH. THE HIGHER
THE RISK LEVEL...THE MORE NUMEROUS THE LANDSLIDES ARE LIKELY TO
BE.



Ken

 

[flatulent1]

Great time to get out with scuba gear and that underwater camera!

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Seattle street photography in November...

:eek:

Ken

 

[flatulent1]

Have you seen it down here? That's no joke!

Well, it is...

But a friend's basement flooded, there's a puddle in the middle of the road that's nearly three feet deep, the storm drain system's overwhelmed... I really ought to have gone out to get some pictures, but the heat was on, the cocoa was on the stove...

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

Wind, Rain Pummel Pacific Northwest, Cause 1 Death
By Doug Esser, Associated Press, November 20, 2012

"Residents in Washington and Oregon braced for more wet weather after a fierce storm swamped streets, toppled trees and large trucks, cut power to nearly 50,000 residents, and caused at least one death."

"Flood warnings were issued for a handful of western Washington rivers, with moderate flooding expected Tuesday along the Chehalis River in the Centralia area."

"Nearly 2 inches of rain fell in six hours Monday in one Seattle neighborhood — a total that Seattle Public Utilities meteorologist James Rufo-Hill called 'extraordinary.'"

"In Washington, peak storm gusts reached 101 mph on the Megler bridge linking Oregon and Washington and 61 mph at Hoquiam on the Washington coast. They hit 114 mph on isolated Naselle Ridge in the mountains of southwest Washington, the Weather Service reported."

"In Portland, Weather Service meteorologist Kirsten Elson said powerful Northwest storms are not uncommon even as early as November."



Ken

 

[anikin]

As I said, just a little drizzle