Question: are you developing your negatives appropriately to produce the extra contrast and density for Salt printing? The process requires significantly more density in the higher values to print well in salt. Your print lacks contrast and it’s likely because your negative doesn’t have the right density/contrast.
Please describe your process for making the negative you used.
Have you printed a step wedge so that you know your minimum exposure to dmax and that the expected full tonal range is?
I'm just starting out using film for negatives instead of digital negs.
Film negative Foma 100. Exposure was f32 @ 1/4 sec. Under exposed by 2/3 rds stop. Developed in HC110 1:31 usual time is 5.30 for rotary in Paterson orbital - I processed for 10mins) I'm following Jim Noels advise here. https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/neg-exposure-for-salt-prints.64419/#post-914494
Jim's advice is reasonable, but I suspect your negative still lacks sufficient contrast and density.
I have tested Fomapan 100 as an alternative to FP4 (the BEST film you can use for making Salted Paper negatives) and found you can get usable negatives from it, but its not ideal: too much fog base density, which interferes with the ability to get good Dmax and an attractive tonal scale. you can make it work, but it's not ideal.
Please see my amended post above, discussing/linking to Ellie Young's article on Salted Paper printing, specifically her process for crafting the ideal negative.
If 5% salt is your first bath, it is not abnormal that you don't see cloudy outcome. Mine does not cloud up either. If you use tap water as the first step, more likely you will see cloudiness. 5% salt essentially precipitates solid AgCl which stays in the paper whereas tap water, the result is more of a colloidal AgCl and other anions (source of cloudiness) that can easily get washed out of the paper. If there was any residual AgNO3, you would get staining during fixing (the reason why you need to remove it in the first place.) I don't see any staining in your print - whites are pretty clean, so it is doubtful if there is inadequacy in removal of AgNO3 from the paper.
:Niranjan.
I'm just starting out using film for negatives instead of digital negs.
Film negative Foma 100. Exposure was f32 @ 1/4 sec. Under exposed by 2/3 rds stop. Developed in HC110 1:31 usual time is 5.30 for rotary in Paterson orbital - I processed for 10mins) I'm following Jim Noels advise here. https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/neg-exposure-for-salt-prints.64419/#post-914494
With pyro negatives this may be about right, but with negatives without stain it's on the thin side. Salted paper works best with negatives with a tonal scale of around 2.25logD. Refer to the violet curve below:A good rule is if you have to use a 0 or 00 filter to get a somewhat reasonable print on silver gel you should have a decent neg for salt.
With pyro negatives this may be about right, but with negatives without stain it's on the thin side. Salted paper works best with negatives with a tonal scale of around 2.25logD.
* development in e.g. HC110 (non-staining) will have to be different than in PMK as the stain plays a very significant role (hence the popularity of staining developers for this purpose).
What kind of unit is this; i.e. what kind of light source and what nominal power level? E.g. a bank of UV 6pcs 15W tubes, COB LEDs...?Using DIY UV unit. The paper is about 7" from the lights and exposure times were in the region of two minutes for that particular print. (I know I do need to button down exposure times, DMAX etc).
I'd recommend using just plain salt; it's important it's non-iodized. 'Sea salt' is a problematic term; I've seen anything called that way ranging from highly pure NaCl to crud evaporated in basins on the shores. It really helps if you know what you're putting onto the paper; once you got the hang of the process with controlled variables, there's plenty of room for experimentation. As to the iodized bit: iodide can affect printing qualities of a silver halide system enormously. If you only have a small amount of iodide in your salt, you can see dmax drop precipitously, exposure times run amok, fog popping up etc. Unless you have a very good idea of what you're doing and why, I'd make sure that there's no opportunity of iodide to find its way into your salt mix. Bromide is less of a concern, but chloride just work best for all I know (and is the cheapest). There's also very little benefit in experimenting with other cations beside sodium. Hence, sodium chloride is really the way to go.My thoughts are mainly the salt to silver nitrate mix. I had some initial success with salt prints, starting with a Fotospeed kit, then progressed to mixing my own solutions THEN I changed the type of salt and I think that could be the issue. I stuck to my original measurements as Anderson's method but wonder if the sodium chloride needs re-adjusting. Originally I was using salt bought from Amazon but this latest is pure sea salt and has a high salinity (apparently).
Initially I used a face tanning machine and looking back at my notes the ones in my gallery here were all done with that. Just propped it up in front of the print vertically. 8 minutes was about the average exposure.
Exposures will be 10-20 minutes with these in all likelihood.The UV unit I made was using 6 of these strips.
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