NE Ohio Apug Gathering, Fall Color, October 9-11, 2009

[Jeff Bannow]

Cheese, hand tools, horse ice cream, old crocks - where do I sign up?

 

[Shawn Dougherty]

Any room for photography next time around? =)

 

[Jeff Bannow]

Any room for photography next time around? =)

I think you need to reevaluate your priorities.

 

[Nicholas Lindan]

Non-electric ice cream...harumph, I'm awfully young and I remember how to do it:

• block of ice in a gunny sack
• smack it with the side of an axe
• put the crushed ice in the wooden bucket with rock salt
• put the cream and sugar and strawberries in the inner bucket
• turn the crank... and keep turning the crank... and keep turning the crank...

There is a variation with cream and stuff in a jar, placed in a paint can packed with ice and salt, the can is then rolled/kicked back and forth on the front porch.

True, the Amish don't like having their picture taken, though there are exceptions if you ask first - usually if the picture is taken from the back or is as a 'generic working figure' and taken from a distance. There are all sorts of restriction variations among the Amish: some allow DC electricity but not AC; some allow electricity for the milking operation but for nothing else; some allow 2-stroke engines but not 4-stroke; some allow telephones but only if they are located in the barn. We need to find a sect that allows analog photography but not digital.

Some Amish 'rent out' their farms to painting and photography groups, it usually includes a huge home-cooked lunch. If there is interest I can see if I can locate the family that did the rental bit for my Mother's painting group and we can see if they will accommodate photographers.

 

[Jeff Bannow]

Some Amish 'rent out' their farms to painting and photography groups, it usually includes a huge home-cooked lunch. If there is interest I can see if I can locate the family that did the rental bit for my Mother's painting group and we can see if they will accommodate photographers.

Sounds interesting!

Tell them we do Amish-style photography.

 

[winger]

Sounds interesting!

Tell them we do Amish-style photography.

Yeah, I'm sure we could all come up with cameras that don't even need batteries.

 

[Nicholas Lindan]

Yeah, I'm sure we could all come up with cameras that don't even need batteries.

Maybe we could invite Bill Schwab - he could pull his wet-plate trailer with a pair of horses?

The Amish might be more amenable to pin-hole cameras - after all they are just a variation on a small hole in the barn wall.

 

[jp80874]

If there is interest I can see if I can locate the family that did the rental bit for my Mother's painting group and we can see if they will accommodate photographers.

That sounds great Nicholas. Thank you. Maybe we could even get Dolly to join in with her water colors. Is the interest for this fall or next spring? Where is the farm located? If it is in the snow belt where it snows in feet rather than inches we should take that into consideration.

John

 

[DeBone 75]

Speaking of the Amish Country my Wife and I were there in Sept of this year and Nov of last. John you'll have to help me on this. I think it is called the Walnut Creek Grocery, or something. Anyhow when you walk in to the store, on the display shelf above the door is this big honken 20X24 camera on a tripod. Has anyone everseen that

 

[jp80874]

Speaking of the Amish Country my Wife and I were there in Sept of this year and Nov of last. John you'll have to help me on this. I think it is called the Walnut Creek Grocery, or something. Anyhow when you walk in to the store, on the display shelf above the door is this big honken 20X24 camera on a tripod. Has anyone everseen that

No, that is news to me. I looked it up on Google and I could probably find it, but I know nothing about it. Sounds very interesting.

John

 

[djkloss]

do these amish wear white or black hats? are they similar to menonites? one time my girlfriend and I tried to do some landscape photos with an amish house in the photo. the kids shined their mirror on us and nearly blinded us with the reflection. ouch! smart kids! and an elder came out and started yelling at us about leaving them alone. that was in New York State.

my dad has a spy camera from WWII. maybe we should get out the leicas and do some sneaky street photography.

do you suppose there are any lurkers out there watching us?

 

[Nicholas Lindan]

The Amish around here wear straw hats. But there are all sorts of Amish - some of the 'Old Order' ones go so far as to ban buttons as 'ornamentation' and hold their shirts closed with straight pins. You may have run into a strict sect - though if they allow mirrors...

 

[ic-racer]

Now for something very non-Amish

I was looking for some 8x10 enlarging lenses and found a place that had both a 360mm Componon that I wanted to try and a 300mm Process lens. I turns out they also had a broken Durst with a supposedly working CLS2000 head.

So, after a very eventful weekend of travel, I got the two lenses and a car full of spare Durst parts.

 

[ic-racer]

I was able to fix the CLS2000 head and get it running. It is quite a beast. I actually put it up on the enlarger myself. I stripped the head of just about anything that would unscrew so I could lift if high enough to get it up there.

For those who have never seen one of these in person, that full-size home water heater is a good size reference.

 

[djkloss]

Holy Cow Dale! Great find!

 

[djkloss]

hey where is everybody? I miss you guys!

 

[jp80874]

hey where is everybody? I miss you guys!

Good point Dorothy. What has everyone been doing photographically since we last saw each other? We have to have fodder for the next show and tell.

John

 

[djkloss]

Good point Dorothy. What has everyone been doing photographically since we last saw each other? We have to have fodder for the next show and tell.

John

Well, I guess I'll start. I'm using up the last of my Fomatone Chamois 542. We have a show coming up on Dec 4-6 so I'm planning ahead... lol! I made a couple of 16x20s and tried something new. I used a diffuser under the enlarger lens. And it shows all the 'defects'. ouch! So, I'm thinking I need someone to invent a contraption that will move the diffuser filter in a circular motion while I do the dodging. Or I need more hands. I like the effect, but need more practice.

My next trick is to split tone the prints without ruining them. It's not easy toning 16x20s! I got a box of the new fomatone chamois 542-II but haven't tried it yet.

I got one nice print, but there's a stripe right down the middle, from what I don't know. Maybe a flaw in the paper? Then there's the black specs on the print........... ah, so much fun!

The good news is I found an enlarger lens I didn't know I had. It's a 105mm Rodenstock so now I can enlarge to 16x20 and crop out the vignetting. You'd think I would do that 'before' when I take the picture, but no. Still working on that dilema.

Can't wait till the next show & tell!

 

[jp80874]

Jeff & Eva Bannow mentioned that Andrew Moore will be exhibiting at the Akron Art Museum. Akron U professor Andrew Borowiec’s, “Ohio Photographs” run from Feb 20 to May 30th 2010. My contact at the museum, my Photo 2 instructor, says the Andrew Moore exhibit will open shortly after that in June. Why am I mentioning it now, months ahead? Andrew Moore has a six page spread in the Winter 2009 issue of Aperture that Dolly and I picked up at Barnes & Noble today. It is a great article with many photographs. We certainly will be going and we hope you will join us.

Jeff, tell us about your connection with Moore. I can see how he has been an inspiration for some of the work you have shown us. Tell us all about it.

Andrew Moore http://www.andrewlmoore.com/

John

 

[ic-racer]

I see work of Moore every day at lunch. A few years ago he and Larry Fink were commissioned by my employer to shoot around campus. So, a few years after it seems both his work and Larry's work wound up in the staff cafeteria. It is good work, I don't get tired of seeing it and will certainly head to Akron to see the show. I was down there a few weeks ago to see the Chuck Close exhibit. The Close exhibit was good, but in terms of photography, there were no photographs. There was a large Polaroid that looked like a photograph, but it was a d****** reproduction. I have pretty strong feelings about that kind of thing. It made me want to cut up my Ansel Adams and John Sexton calendars and display them as 'original reproductions'

 

[ic-racer]

I also want to mention that my friend made his first prints last week in his modest apartment darkroom (thanks to Jeff's enlarger). So, he will have prints to show at our next gathering.

 

[jp80874]

I also want to mention that my friend made his first prints last week in his modest apartment darkroom (thanks to Jeff's enlarger). So, he will have prints to show at our next gathering.

Congratulations on first prints to Bill Jones who some of us met first time during Peter Spangenberg's platinum demo last event.

John

 

[jp80874]

Saturday I received a post card notice of the next Photorama USA photo swap meet. Dec. 6th, 10:00 AM - 3:00 PM at the Quality Inn - Richfield, just south of the Turnpike entrance on Brecksville Road. $6 entrance, $2 students with ID. Just in time to buy a Christmas photo goodie for your favorite photographer.

John

 

[winger]

A few years ago he and Larry Fink were commissioned by my employer to shoot around campus. So, a few years after it seems both his work and Larry's work wound up in the staff cafeteria. It is good work, I don't get tired of seeing it and will certainly head to Akron to see the show.

Hopefully I'll be able to see the show as well. My schedule this spring is up in the air at the moment.
side note - Larry Fink was my photography instructor in college. He only taught there for the one year and then went to a different college. Interesting guy.

 

[Jeff Bannow]

Jeff & Eva Bannow mentioned that Andrew Moore will be exhibiting at the Akron Art Museum. Akron U professor Andrew Borowiec’s, “Ohio Photographs” run from Feb 20 to May 30th 2010. My contact at the museum, my Photo 2 instructor, says the Andrew Moore exhibit will open shortly after that in June. Why am I mentioning it now, months ahead? Andrew Moore has a six page spread in the Winter 2009 issue of Aperture that Dolly and I picked up at Barnes & Noble today. It is a great article with many photographs. We certainly will be going and we hope you will join us.

Jeff, tell us about your connection with Moore. I can see how he has been an inspiration for some of the work you have shown us. Tell us all about it.

Andrew Moore http://www.andrewlmoore.com/

John

Going to have to pick up that Aperture issue! I'm definitely planning on catching the exhibit as well.

So, the story of how we know Andrew ... Eva & I run a photo group called the Click Collective, as most of you know. It's a small group of about 20 members who get together to share work, critique, go on group shoots, hold gallery shows, etc. Two of the members are our German friends Dan & Silke Seybold, also occasionally seen here on APUG.

Through Dan & Silke, we are friends with Yves Marchand & Romain Meffre, two french photographers shooting 4x5 color work of abandoned buildings, for galleries in Paris. Their website We've toured them around Detroit a few times on day shoots ourselves.

Yves & Romain are friends with Andrew Moore through the shooting of abandoned buildings - Andrew contacted them after seeing their work published. Yves & Romain put Andrew in touch with Dan & Silke, who became fast friends.

Now, whenever any of them come to Detroit, Dan, Silke, Eva or I tour them around the ruins of Detroit. The last few times Andrew came, he stayed with Dan & Silke for the week. When he was in town over the summer, he was kind enough to critique the Dreams show The Click Collective was in the process of putting up at the BBAC.

Andrew's a nice guy and a talented photographer. He knows his way around a darkroom, and still shoots film - 4x5 & 8x10 color mostly.

Is that all clear as mud?

To summarize - acquaintance through mutual friends. I guess I should have said that to begin with.