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ND Set-Up For Hasselblads

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What set-up do you use for ND filters on your Bay 60 Hasselblad lenses? I don't think there are any Bay 60 ND filters available, but correct me if I'm wrong.
 
I have not had the need for an ND filters for the Hasselblad. I do have many black & white contrast and polarizer Bay 60 filters, but I would change a film back if exposure was a problem. Then again, I have never photographed tidal changes over relatively long exposures.
 
Something like a Cokin or Lee system would work with the proper adapters.

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The various compendium shades are also is able to hold gels.

You'd REALLY want to use proper Kodak Wratten gels in it, but it's an option to get non-standard filters that are otherwise available.

As someone who primarily has Bay 50 lenses with a scattering of other sizes, I swear by my Bay 50-55mm ring, but I also generally have at least one compendium shade with me along with adapters for all the lenses I'm using and some Wrattens for specific situations.
 
I don't recommend the Cokin / SinghRay / etc square filter systems, or the compendium filters for large ND (>10x) as those systems leak too much light around the filter leading to veil flare in your images - stick to B60 and/or 67mm.
 
Same here, primarily because the cost of B60 filters (even used ones) is ridiculous!

Mike

When possible I first look to buy used B60 filters. Before the sudden disappearance of black & white contrast filters from the market about two years ago, there had been a good used filter market for all filters.
 
I don't recommend the Cokin / SinghRay / etc square filter systems, or the compendium filters for large ND (>10x) as those systems leak too much light around the filter leading to veil flare in your images - stick to B60 and/or 67mm.

I have yet to experience anything like that. The systems do no allow extraneous light to hit the lens, but they do offer a large, flat reflective surface. There are compendium lens shades that fit over the adapters. Everything gets kind of clunky, but you usually can ge by with one set of filters and holder plus a few adapters for number of lenses.

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I don't recommend the Cokin / SinghRay / etc square filter systems, or the compendium filters for large ND (>10x) as those systems leak too much light around the filter leading to veil flare in your images - stick to B60 and/or 67mm.

If OP is looking for ND options, likely it is for landscape work.

Easy enough to drape a cloth over the filters to block any stray light. IMO, Lee system, etc., much preferable to multiple Bay filters.
 
If shading the filter is the concern, then by using the B60 to 67mm adapter, you have access to a range of 67mm screw in lens hoods.

Personally, i use an old Hoya rubber hood when needed.

Mike
 
I have yet to experience anything like that. The systems do no allow extraneous light to hit the lens, but they do offer a large, flat reflective surface. There are compendium lens shades that fit over the adapters. Everything gets kind of clunky, but you usually can ge by with one set of filters and holder plus a few adapters for number of lenses.

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Just my experience, and hence the "recommendation". But we learn best making mistakes, so I encourage people to test and experiment.

Square filters are great, you certainly cannot beat them for graduated NDs. But they slide into a slot that is not sealed.

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The space between the filter and the holder lets light in, and when you are blocking 99% of the light through the filter, the light leaking behind the filter can be much brighter. On a bright sunny day when you are trying to smooth out water, you can get veil glare flair.

Hence my recommendation to thread >10x ND directly to the lens.


(He he.. we've found light leans in the lens mounts this way...)
 
Just my experience, and hence the "recommendation". But we learn best making mistakes, so I encourage people to test and experiment.

Square filters are great, you certainly cannot beat them for graduated NDs. But they slide into a slot that is not sealed.

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The space between the filter and the holder lets light in, and when you are blocking 99% of the light through the filter, the light leaking behind the filter can be much brighter. On a bright sunny day when you are trying to smooth out water, you can get veil glare flair.

Hence my recommendation to thread >10x ND directly to the lens.


(He he.. we've found light leans in the lens mounts this way...)

My Cokin EVO has a gasket on the holder to block extraneous light.
 
My Cokin EVO has a gasket on the holder to block extraneous light.

Yes, it's a nice system. I've never been keen on a "non-abrasive foam" that the filters slide over. But like I said, you should test/experiment yourself to see if the system works for you. I stick to directly mounted extreme ND filters, the square filter holder can go on afterwards.
 
It would be simple to drape a cloth over the junction, just as one would prudently cover a film holder during a long exposure in a LF camera.
 
I use the NISI system with success. Similar to Cokin, and the adapter rings are available in a huge variety of sizes. For B60, the adapter rings work well, and for my 40 FLE there is a special adapter ring made by another firm that works perfectly. Suggest you look at Ken Rockwell's review of the 40 FLE for details.
 
May I also ask if anyone knows Cokin P filter size is compatible with CF lens with B60 from 50mm and above? I believe some mentioned about vignetting using Cokin P size filters but have no personal experience.
 
I've yet to hold both in my hand at once, but I know the within the Lee ecosystem there are standard and wide-angle adapter rings. Would a wide-angle adapter ring solve anyone's vignetting problems at the same diameter?

@itsdoable in your example above, the filter slot closest to the lens doesn't have any sort of light trap foam or felt? Can anyone else comment regarding brands that have no light trap materials? That seems odd to me.
 
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