... are you the oracle?
Probably the most breakable, least repairable list of cameras possible.
It doesn't hurt to ask, but Eastman Kodak is an extremely improbable candidate for any new camera manufacture.
Kodak will go down in history as one of America's most mismanaged companies.The several people I know who still work there are stoically waiting for the end to come, complaining of the same short-sighted and unimaginative management style that Kodak has suffered for decades.
The fate of Alaris is likely linked to that of of EK and Fuji seems increasingly disinterested in chemical photography aside from Instax, so any future for conventional film or film cameras will likely lie with Ilford or one of the other European manufacturers. Black & white film, that is. Before too long, the production of the complex and expensive color emulsions will go the way of Autochrome, lost to history along with the deep practical knowledge base that made them possible.
as long as lf beats digital (by far) there will be lf film. getting squeezed into the corner? you are phantasizing. there is no need for 10 or more iso 100 emulsions..I know various industries relies on 35mm film for archiving, while LF is quite niche and getting squeezed in the corner as we speak - better prep to coat your own, instead of making a fool of yourself.
i agree. its pathetic.The Klasse S and W cameras were only $400 when available. They didnt sell enough for Fujifilm to continue making them.
This whole exercise is futile.
for many reasons. resolution, dynamic range, beauty of handcrafted prints, slow pace photography, durability, alternative processes, magic, ...It's not pathetic, it's reality. Now: why would people really use film today or even in the future? Even digital cameras are in trouble because of smartphones.
That applies to US here. What about the other 99.9% of the world's population? Slow pace is something they absolutely DON'T want and who even knows what dynamic range is?for many reasons. resolution, dynamic range, beauty of handcrafted prints, slow pace photography, durability, alternative processes, magic, ...
It's not pathetic, it's reality. Now: why would people really use film today or even in the future? Even digital cameras are in trouble because of smartphones.
It is all about consumerism, which is buying new. And nothing else. Consumerism driven wants new. Some people from film era like me hates it. Where are millions of camera which are made to lasts for very long time. But for consumerist like OP It is no-no. It must be new.
Where are new film cameras made. Expensive Leica RF cameras, not expensive Lomography cameras. LF cameras are still made. Where are Cosina made SLRs which are just few years old. BH had them for sale nobody wanted it. Where is new Nikon F6 and new single use camera under different brands, including Kodak collecting dust of store shells. But no, OP wants his own new and wants to be a film saving hero.
Where are millions of film cameras in fully working order and they are made from metal and glass. They will works for decades. But no, OP wants new. Consumerism Iit is.
Why buy old and pay money for single repair person? It is not cool. It has to be new and under known label. Shameless consumersm. Shame.
magic
Up to a point. Good points but... Criticizing an idea is fine; criticizing the OP to the point of a personal attack is not.Well said.
I like inexpensive hamburgers.I like cheap hamburgers
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its because of this.
peeking into a film tank to
see if there are negatives hiding in there
is like pee wee hermon saying "good morning" to his bike after breakfast
and watching a print appear on a piece of paper is a dream ..
the world needs magic right now.
we don't need robots of fast cars or fancy suits, or cheep hamburgers
we need something to take our minds off of the eminent doom
the prognosticators have prognosticated ... personally
id rather be in the darkroom when the world splits in half
or the aliens come down and eradicate us, or the robots that feed off of us holds
by our ankle tendons and eat us like a fig in one bite.
magic is good
you dont know what dynamic range is? you dont care about slow pace? so please, treat yourself, stick to your smartphone, try to use it till its broken (!) and dont put chemicals down the drain. perfect. snap away.That applies to US here. What about the other 99.9% of the world's population? Slow pace is something they absolutely DON'T want and who even knows what dynamic range is?
+ 1Up to a point. Good points but... Criticizing an idea is fine; criticizing the OP to the point of a personal attack is not.
It is all about consumerism, which is buying new. And nothing else. Consumerism driven wants new. Some people from film era like me hates it. Where are millions of camera which are made to lasts for very long time. But for consumerist like OP It is no-no. It must be new.
Where are new film cameras made. Expensive Leica RF cameras, not expensive Lomography cameras. LF cameras are still made. Where are Cosina made SLRs which are just few years old. BH had them for sale nobody wanted it. Where is new Nikon F6 and new single use camera under different brands, including Kodak collecting dust of store shells. But no, OP wants his own new and wants to be a film saving hero.
Where are millions of film cameras in fully working order and they are made from metal and glass. They will works for decades. But no, OP wants new. Consumerism Iit is.
Why buy old and pay money for single repair person? It is not cool. It has to be new and under known label. Shameless consumersm. Shame.
I like tasty hamburgers ...I like inexpensive hamburgers.
+2 !... Criticizing an idea is fine; criticizing the OP to the point of a personal attack is not.
you dont know what dynamic range is? you dont care about slow pace? so please, treat yourself, stick to your smartphone, try to use it till its broken (!) and dont put chemicals down the drain. perfect. snap away.
It is all about consumerism, which is buying new. And nothing else. Consumerism driven wants new. Some people from film era like me hates it. Where are millions of camera which are made to lasts for very long time. But for consumerist like OP It is no-no. It must be new.
Where are new film cameras made. Expensive Leica RF cameras, not expensive Lomography cameras. LF cameras are still made. Where are Cosina made SLRs which are just few years old. BH had them for sale nobody wanted it. Where is new Nikon F6 and new single use camera under different brands, including Kodak collecting dust of store shells. But no, OP wants his own new and wants to be a film saving hero.
Where are millions of film cameras in fully working order and they are made from metal and glass. They will works for decades. But no, OP wants new. Consumerism Iit is.
Why buy old and pay money for single repair person? It is not cool. It has to be new and under known label. Shameless consumersm. Shame.
i agree with your point ov view. the point i was trying to make, even in a too provocative way, was to say, IF there is nothing special for you in shooting film, just dont do it.i dont' care about dynamic range, i don't care about slow photography
( i do large format upto 11x14 and couldn't care less about slowpace ! if it would take me an hour or half an hour
to set up and take a photograph i wouldn't bother ) and i love using a smartphone to make snappies
and like with a Dslr to making xerox negatives, and film/paper.plastic too. not everyone who uses film
( paper or plastic or whatever it might be) does it for the same reasons. personally when i hear people
talking about "the craft of photography" " photographic vision" "the slow pace of camera work ( large format or whatever" )
i try to ignore pretty much everything because those expressions mean absolutely nothing to me.
i do like making stuff by hand though i love simple stuff too... and that can easily be done with files made from a happy snapper..
should i do the same ? keep snapping with my smartie?
im kind of wallowing ..
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