Some businesses can operate that way with no problem, especially when the disagreements the business owner is likely to face are relatively small and affordable. It's good that you never have had a problem! I haven't either, but do need to use the assistance of professionals from time to time.When I ran my non-photographic business, I don't recall one instance where I used a lawyer to draw up an agreement, proposal, or contract?
That printer is taking a risk if they're duplicating the work of a photographer and selling it without knowledge or consent of their customer.I know a professional fine art printer who makes pictures for the estates of famous photographers or museum shows who occasionally sells "proofs" of those pictures. Is that legal?
When I was first getting started in business, I had a problem with a real estate developer in Manhattan who clipped me for $3500. My instinct when I met him the first time was negative. He seemed flaky. But I was too interested in getting his building to service its fire alarm system, a 60 story high rise office building on Park Avenue South. So I ignored my intuition and proceeded to do work for him. Big mistake, but lesson learned. I didn't file a mechanics lien. I was new at the time and didn't want to get a reputation with other real estate companies and people I might be doing business with as I developed my company. Despite being so big, the Manhattan office building real estate industry is actually pretty small. There are only so many players. But I learned a lesson and worked only with those developers, owners, and management companies I learned I could trust. I had one building, the American Bible Society that owned a building on Broadway, that I sent a substantial proposal for additional work he needed to be done. Two weeks later, he called me asking why I had;t sent him the first invoice for 1/3 of the total amount I asked for in my proposal, even before starting any work. I hand't even sent an invoice. He was calling me! With customers like that, I didn't need a lawyer.you don't have to study law but you have to be informed. its no fun getting ripped off.
me too but I wish I did for 1 job. a well known real estate developer from out of state asked me to be on their staff and do work for them. they were renovating a large mill complex, and needed someone with my experience. I had been doing photo stuff for nearly 20 years professionally and thought I would be OK ( and they came highly recommended by people I had worked with years before too) ... but .. I know better now. should have had a mechanic's lien put on them. turns out I found out years later I wasn't alone, they ripped off 100s of local people ( some put mechanics liens on them and eventually got paid, they had a lawyer help them out .. ) ... hindsight is 20 20.
I’m glad they know what photography is because philosophers have been trying to figure out what it is for at least five or six decades…and photography doesn’t know what it is either…
I guess performing arts because it is recording something and there are releases involved ?
He was a real creep. When I met him the first time on a Friday, he told me how he was holding back payment to a contractor until Monday so he could make three extra days of interest. A dead giveaway who I was dealing with. But I was greedily blinded hoping to pick up his building. So I went ahead with the initial work anyway. Then he didn't pay me because he said he subsequently decided to replace the fire alarm system which has nothing to do with the work I did. "Why should I pay you?" he asked me.Alan
Sounds like you had a good situation except for the guy who left you holding the bag.
John
Something's wrong when you have to study law to shoot a picture.
A little trick I Learned was to send an email or letter confirmation. Such as this. "Thanks for your telephone order today. We are proceeding with Furnishing 20 photographs at $50 each. We should have them for you in about two weeks. Thanks again. Alan"It is funny how many people think that you only go to lawyers to deal with existing problems.
I had many satisfied clients who came to me for advice about how to avoid problems, and how to be in a good position to deal with them if they should arise.
The most valuable thing I had to sell was advice.
And a lot of people who dealt with my clients also appreciated my advice, because they too benefitted from having issues raised and understood and agreed upon before they became disputes and problems.
And while there are lots of perfectly enforceable contracts out there that haven't been reduced to writing, that really increases the chance of misunderstanding, particularly if you are dealing with organizations where the individuals involved can change.
Lawyers get a bad rap, but I've never regretted a dollar spent on legal services, which often as not involve business strategy and consulting services rather than producing paperwork and contracts.It is funny how many people think that you only go to lawyers to deal with existing problems.
I had many satisfied clients who came to me for advice about how to avoid problems, and how to be in a good position to deal with them if they should arise.
The most valuable thing I had to sell was advice.
And a lot of people who dealt with my clients also appreciated my advice, because they too benefitted from having issues raised and understood and agreed upon before they became disputes and problems.
And while there are lots of perfectly enforceable contracts out there that haven't been reduced to writing, that really increases the chance of misunderstanding, particularly if you are dealing with organizations where the individuals involved can change.
Something's wrong when you have to study law to shoot a picture.
you don't have to study law but you have to be informed.
It is funny how many people think that you only go to lawyers to deal with existing problems.
come on Don, it's only like 150$/hour to shoot the sh*t ..I can't think of a single thing I'd ask a lawyer about except an existing or potential legal problem, just asI wouldn't go to the dentist about anything other than my teeth,.
come on Don, it's only like 150$/hour to shoot the sh*t ..
The emphasis was on existing...I can't think of a single thing I'd ask a lawyer about except an existing or potential legal problem, just asI wouldn't go to the dentist about anything other than my teeth,.
+1Hers is a great story. For me, the accusations of 'immorality' and 'exploitation' are less important than the fact of exposure. The images deserve to be seen, and even if only in retrospect, after her death, she deserves her legacy as a fine photographer.
Hers is a great story. For me, the accusations of 'immorality' and 'exploitation' are less important than the fact of exposure. The images deserve to be seen, and even if only in retrospect, after her death, she deserves her legacy as a fine photographer.
Hers is a great story. For me, the accusations of 'immorality' and 'exploitation' are less important than the fact of exposure. The images deserve to be seen, and even if only in retrospect, after her death, she deserves her legacy as a fine photographer.
Of course you are correct. It's the pictures that are important, and that she made them, All the rest is BS and of no importance. I know of a photography critic that is always carping/complaining about the circumstances of Robert Capa's D-Day pictures when the only thing that matters is that they exist, and that they are spectacular.
That is what you have gotten out of these 8 pages..?So I assume all of you would be perfectly happy with having someone else display and promote photos you took but never specifically wanted shown to anyone?
That is what you have gotten out of these 8 pages..?
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