More of "whatever it takes to save film"....Quentin Tarantino Explains Why 70MM Film

[frobozz]

Yes, until IMax came along, the widely used 70mm formats ran the film vertically. Just like bigger 35mm.

Here's a decent rundown of standard film formats (but it's missing IMax):

http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/filmdims.htm

Duncan

 

[cmacd123]

Here's a decent rundown of standard film formats (but it's missing IMax):

http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/filmdims.htm

Duncan

IMAX is a more rectangular format - rather than "Wide" screen. But they both use the "70mm" film (actually 70mm perforated 65mm) with a 65mm camera negative stock.

BTW, the Wide Screen museum will have to update their description of "Ultra Panavison 70" : according to "American Cinematographer" The Hateful Eight will be the 11th Picture released on that format, and the 100 "Roadshow" theatres will be showing the film in 70mm anamorphic. Presumably when and if it goes into wide distribution If any smaller theatres get to show it on film it will be likely in 35mm anamorphic.

 

[dasBlute]

Sigh, if I ever had Millions to burn, I would set up a cinema that only ever shows film prints......and I'd go bust in a hurry

We in the Bay Area are fortunate enough to have the local Stanford Theatre in Palo Alto, sponsored by David Packard, which only shows classic films. I've seen dozens of classics there, a total joy!

-Tim

 

[DREW WILEY]

I'm more annoyed by how so much digital manipulation is being used as a substitute for intelligent filming and good acting. But it is probably true that Hollywood's biggest source of income is zitty teenagers watching catchy action flicks. One reason I never go to theatres anymore. I have no idea what the Pacific Film Archive up the street is up to. That is set to open in January, and with its stainless cladding looks like a giant DeLorean from Back to the Future, and probably cost a couple hundred million to build. Totally out of place, architecturally. But that's the kind of nonsense one expect in Modern Art venues. At least it isn't quite as ugly a building as the SF MMA.

 

[Trail Images]

I'm more annoyed by how so much digital manipulation is being used as a substitute for intelligent filming and good acting. But it is probably true that Hollywood's biggest source of income is zitty teenagers watching catchy action flicks. One reason I never go to theaters anymore. I have no idea what the Pacific Film Archive up the street is up to. That is set to open in January, and with its stainless cladding looks like a giant DeLorean from Back to the Future, and probably cost a couple hundred million to build. Totally out of place, architecturally. But that's the kind of nonsense one expect in Modern Art venues. At least it isn't quite as ugly a building as the SF MMA.

+1.......totally agree and I had not been to a theater in 20 years until a couple weeks ago to see Bridges of Spies. Yes, nothing but old folks there as it had NO special effects being used beyond the downing of the U-2 to bring in the Now Generation.

 

[hoffy]

We in the Bay Area are fortunate enough to have the local Stanford Theatre in Palo Alto, sponsored by David Packard, which only shows classic films. I've seen dozens of classics there, a total joy!

-Tim

I'll have a note of that. If I am ever in the area.....

 

[Steve Smith]

I'm more annoyed by how so much digital manipulation is being used as a substitute for intelligent filming and good acting.

No real change. It just used to be car chases and explosions in place of a good story!


Steve.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

No real change. It just used to be car chases and explosions in place of a good story!...

It's still that too.

 

[fdonadio]

The good films being made today are at least as good as the good films of your respective wonder years.

I tend to agree, but... It seems to me that, at some point, Hollywood execs found out that explosions and special effects are extremely effective commercially. Since then, it's hard to see blockbuster titles that are not full of the most incredible and magnificent explosions, preferably in 3D!

 

[Nodda Duma]

In other words, Hollywood discovered that demand drives the market.

Very refreshing and very consumer-centric, as opposed to markets which tell customers what they should enjoy.

 

[fdonadio]

In other words, Hollywood discovered that demand drives the market.

Very refreshing and very consumer-centric, as opposed to markets which tell customers what they should enjoy.

It doesn't have to be either way.

There's enough people that want to watch good stories, with really good acting and photography, even if there are no special effects. But they are a much smaller group, compared to the ones that like to watch "explosions in 3D". By the offer/demand law, this small group can be totally dismissed.

See my point?

 

[Richard S. (rich815)]

Yup, and this is why I build my music collection on whatever is on the national Top 40 list. I mean that must be the best right? Screw supporting anything else. Go with what the masses want. They always know what's best. Like Trump. Or Hillary.

 

[removed account4]

Yup, and this is why I build my music collection on whatever is on the national Top 40 list. I mean that must be the best right? Screw supporting anything else. Go with what the masses want. They always know what's best. Like Trump. Or Hillary.

im uusally voting for bullwinkle j. moose, but he never makes it past the primary.

 

[fdonadio]

im uusally voting for bullwinkle j. moose, but he never makes it past the primary.

What's your problem with Rocky?

 

[removed account4]

rocky isn't ever running for public office

 

[Sal Santamaura]

Hopefully, wherever I end up seeing the film, things go better than this:

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/one-bad-screening-hateful-eight-123000213.html​

 

[Sirius Glass]

The Crest is just up the street from me. But I cannot understand what was so bad that ...

And if Quentin Tarantino had been at the Crest on Wednesday night, he would have burned the place to the goddamn ground.

 

[fdonadio]

The Crest is just up the street from me. But I cannot understand what was so bad that ...

There were problems wither projection and the image quality suffered from focus problems. After the intermission, they switched to digital projection, because of the problems, and the image was quality was noticeably better.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Oh. Not OMG, just oh.

 

[hoffy]

OK, just a quick question about projection, from someone who has never been in a projection room.

How is focus achieved? Does it require the projectionist to monitor and adjust as required, is it a carefully calibrated function that is performed when the projector is set, or is it a fully automated function that happens as needed?

Reason being (& as I alluded a few pages ago), the last movie I saw I thought the screening was a touch on the soft side - not out of focus, but not as sharp as I would have expected. AFAIK, this was a digital screening.

Cheers

 

[Steve Smith]

I tend to agree, but... It seems to me that, at some point, Hollywood execs found out that explosions and special effects are extremely effective commercially. Since then, it's hard to see blockbuster titles that are not full of the most incredible and magnificent explosions, preferably in 3D!

Probably. However, in my opinion, the best movies do not originate in Hollywood.


Steve.

 

[fdonadio]

However, in my opinion, the best movies do not originate in Hollywood..

Good point. In fact, I am into European movies myself. But, here in Brazil, most — if not all— titles showing in theaters at any given time are American.

(Please note I don't have a problem with the USA, just a small gripe with Hollywood. )

 

[scheimfluger_77]

OK, just a quick question about projection, from someone who has never been in a projection room.

How is focus achieved? Does it require the projectionist to monitor and adjust as required, is it a carefully calibrated function that is performed when the projector is set, or is it a fully automated function that happens as needed?

Reason being (& as I alluded a few pages ago), the last movie I saw I thought the screening was a touch on the soft side - not out of focus, but not as sharp as I would have expected. AFAIK, this was a digital screening.

Cheers

i don't know about digital but when i was working in theatres the lenses were focused mannually with the twist ring, just like your 35mm camera,even the anamorphic ones

 

[destroya]

I still remember the day when I got a call from the Pres of the Tech Museum in san jose. At the time we (I was on the board and an adviser for two years there during the grand opening) had the only dome IMAX screen west of the Mississippi. The pres asked me if I had 30 minutes to spare to come and watch a little movie preview. AS I worked across the street it was no problem. So I go to the theater and it it was The Tech pres, Michael Eisner, then pres of Disney, The regional VP if IMAX (I was told as I've never met him) and the theaters tech guy. the 5 of us watched a 15 minute clip of fantasia 2 that was done on IMAX. Disney wanted to see how good the quality would be on a dome. I kept thinking to myself, this is how a film should be. ANd seeing it "in the round" was cool. I loved it, but to be honest hate regular IMAX movies shown on the dome that are in regular format.

Anyway, it was interesting the hear the IMAX guy and Eisner talk. I kept my mouth shut and listened. Both also said this is how a movie should be. Amazingly Eisner said that he expected digital to take over when it becomes capable (this was 2001) because the movie studios dont care about quality, only profits. HE was also very happy to have all the movies disney did on film so they could be "re-scanned" and re-released for the current home theater medium. We all know how much info can be scanned from film and he did too. But with digital once you shoot it upressing it looks terrible. At least he saw the future back then.

I miss seeing quality movies shot on film in the theaters.

 

[adelorenzo]

This is an interesting video and makes it sound pretty awesome. From what I'm reading on the Internet however, the initial road show screenings have been plagued by technical problems.

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NnKPnbdluUw[/video]