More AVUS plate holder confusion...

[Kino]

OK, I got two actual Voigtlander plate holders to fit my (supposedly) 9 x 12 cm AVUS.

However, they have 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 Kodak Cut Film Sheaths inside them and they appear to have a raised metal insert around the edge that would not allow a true 9x12 cm glass plate to insert down into the plate holder.

What the heck?

Is there yet another type of plate holder strictly for 9 x 12 cm that I will have to track down? The insert seems fixed and not easily removable...

 

[Nodda Duma]

Pull out the insert. It’s removable, yes?

 

[Kino]

The sheath will come out, but not the "insert"; it seems to be built-in, but have a look and see if I am not thinking straight. This is the holder with the film sheath removed...

 

[Kino]

So, is everyone just slapping their forehead, saying "What a dummy", or are these unusual holders?

 

[JPD]

I have a couple of holders like these, and the inserts can't be removed. They were probably soldered in place and sold like that.

Is there yet another type of plate holder strictly for 9 x 12 cm that I will have to track down?

Yes.

 

[Kino]

Oh, this just gets better and better...

 

[Nodda Duma]

I never had issue with the metal 9x12’s I bought. They just worked as intended (or to say, I made them work).

 

[ChuckP]

I also have a couple of those Voigtlander 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 plate holders. Looks like they are only for that size film. No spacing insert to remove. I picked these up cheap along with some Zeiss 665/7 plate holders set up for 3 1/4 x 4 1/4. The Zeiss holders do have a removable spacer insert that a 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 film sheath slips into. The spacer (or adapter may be a better word) is Zeiss marked 725/4. Removal of the spacer allows regular 9x12 film sheaths to be used.

 

[Kino]

Thanks, ChuckP. Good information to know!