Ole said:1: Doesn't really matter, as long as it isn't too strong. More than 100 g/l is too strong, I use one lump in a tray with water. That's precise enough. Did you notice the print developing in the fixer?.
photomc said:...but can anyone confirm that the amount of mositure in the paper does/does not affect the way Van Dykes look?...
photomc said:Questions:
1. Sodium Thiosulphate - have seen reference to using 5%, then to 30 gm/L, then 20 gm/L...now it's been a while but I'm pretty sure these are not all the same. What was used was 20gm/L which is what came with the kit. Which one?
Use a 2 to 3% solution and it is important to be precise. I personally reccomend and use Sandy King's fixer formula given in his article for Kallitype printing on the Unblinking Eye
"Add 50g sodium thiosulfate, 10g sodium carbonate and 2g sodium sulfite to 750ml water. Stir. When dissolved, add water to 1000ml. "
This formula prevents image bleaching. 1 liter will do 2-3 8x10 prints. I make up 8 or 9 gallons of a concentrated stock solution and dilute for use. To make a concentrated solution mix at 4x the concentration; dilute 1:3 for use.
2. The directions that came with the kit indicated washing for 20-30 min, the fix for 2-3 min, the wash for 5 min. Other info that has been read show much shorter wash times for the first wash 1-5 min, the 1-2 min in the hypo, then longer wash (as in FB paper). So, which is it?
Follow Joe's instructions for washing!
3. The print times seemed long to me, the light box is new 12 - f20T12 BLB's. Using electronic ballast - Thanks, Michael M. - anyway, selected a different negative that I knew had what I expected to be normal exposure - 4x5 negative and did a quick Ziatype - cooked for 6 min, and it was just a bit over cooked - would guess about 41/2 to 5 min would be correct for it..does that sound like resonable time?
7 to 15 minutes are typical. You can't draw comparison's between Ziatype times and VDB other than to say that the VDB is slower.
> Should also mention that the paper used was Platinotype natural - which
This paper works fine for VDB.
must say is pretty nice stuff. Since this is Friday, plan to make up some Ziatypes and VanDykes and print using the Stouffer 21-Step Wedge, starting times will be around 4 min....any thoughts? Does this seem like a reasonable next step?
If you are looking for your minimum printing time for Ziatype or VDB 4 minutes will probably be too short, but you need to discover what works for you.
> which means the paper could be drying out while under the lights - should this matter?
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Yes! Humidity plays a role with VDB but not to the degree it does with palladium printing. All alt processes are affected to one degree or another by humidity.
If you can't get a printing frame with a back that covers fully use a piece of mylar behind the paper that extends beyond the edges of the back.
BTW, kits are convienient but a lot more expensive than purchasing your own chemicals and mixing them so think about that for long term savings.
Murray@uptowngallery said:Just based on my reading...I thought VDB was one of the processes that you can affect tone of by drastic humidity changes
Murray
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