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If you give a monkey a camera with an infinite amount of film, over an infinite amount of time will the monkey produce great pictures?
 

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Yes.
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Maybe.

Moving on ...
 

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Not at infinity focus. Because of the inverse square law, light intensity approaches zero as subject distance approaches infinity. Then you'd have to apply increasingly long exposures for reciprocity compensation. It would take longer than the age of the universe to finish exposing an object at infinity, which is why this monkey doesn't even try.

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In mathematical terms a positive semi definite maybe is remotely possible.
 

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i don't know cliveh
lancelot chimp was taking photographs in the 70s ..
driving race cars, flying spacecraft, and boats ...

he didn't need an infinate amount of film ..
and even had one of his pals in the agency
do the printing for him ...
 

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If you give a monkey a camera with an infinite amount of film, over an infinite amount of time will the monkey produce great pictures?

"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." --Prof. Robert Silensky
 

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I believe the millions of instagram users have proven this concept correct...
 

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If a monkey takes a picture... who ownes the intellectual property/image rights?
The monkey, the human who put the camera in the monkey's hands, or can anyone use the images?
 
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I believe the millions of instagram users have proven this concept correct...

Millions of Instagram and selfie shooters are monkeys and apes proven by the poses, gestures, and they way they act. And that is saying nothing about the people who walk down the street looking at their screens oblivious to everything around them.
 
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Damn I knew I shouldn't have brought this up in the other thread. I believe Clive wasn't here when we went through it the first time.

And I have a sinking feeling we are going to get squirrel sitting on camera picture very soon.

And the always jaw dropping chimping shots.....................
 

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You'll find your answer in the gallery...
 

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I wouldn't dismiss monkey/ape Pictures. One of the orangutans in the Vienna Zoo did paint and photograph she stopped after her children died but even after more than ten year she would recognize the Images made by her, furthermore if someone hung the Images the wrong upside down etc.. she would right them. She was very much aware of what she did and she is not the only case.
 

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why do humans consider other mammals to be so intelectually inferior? If we humans were as smart as some of us like to think, we would have learnt to understand all these other mammals communications. But no, instead we try to teach them to use our communication methods because we're too stupid to understand theirs. If we are supposed to be intelectually superior it should follow that we would find it easier to understand them and not the other way round. So far we've failed on that front which makes us not as smart as we like to think.

It's been over 100 years since Einstein published his theory of general relativity and scientists are still arguing about what exactly what is wrong with it. That means the so called best minds on the planet are a bit "SLOW".
 
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why do humans consider other mammals to be so intelectually inferior? If we humans were as smart as some of us like to think, we would have learnt to understand all these other mammals communications. But no, instead we try to teach them to use our communication methods because we're too stupid to understand theirs. If we are supposed to be intelectually superior it should follow that we would find it easier to understand them and not the other way round. So far we've failed on that front which makes us not as smart as we like to think.

It's been over 100 years since Einstein published his theory of general relativity and scientists are still arguing about what exactly what is wrong with it. That means the so called best minds on the planet are a bit "SLOW".

I get your meaning, but in scientific circles, any theory is supposed to be revisited and argued.
 

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And they are not arguing about what is "wrong" with it. It has been vindicated and upheld many times. They WOULD like to formulate a theory unifying General Relativity and quantum mechanics, a unified field theory, and Einstein worked on this as well. But that's far from arguing about what is wrong with General Relativity.


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Getting a Unified General Relativity has been a real bitch!
 

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I will let the mathematicians correct me, but the answer depends upon if the quality of pictures varies (i.e random) and includes at least the possibility of taking a great picture. If is a possibility of a great photo being taken, then with an infinite amount of time, the monkey should be able to capture it (eventually).

Said another way, if you lock that monkey in an environment which only allows limited variation of pictures to be taken (why not, you asked an imaginary question after all), then the answer is no. An infinite amount of time and infinite amount of film will not create a great photograph if the lens cap is on the whole time.

Now, out of the imaginary world, over my life time I have not yet created a great photo. So empirically, I m trending to no. But I have hope! In fact my last roll of film ended up with zero exposures since I didnt load it correctly.
 

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If you give a monkey a camera with an infinite amount of film, over an infinite amount of time will the monkey produce great pictures?

They prefer cam phones not patient enough to want to use film...
 
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