Moersch 5 lith , Wow

[Bob Carnie]

Its early Sun morning, rocking to Kim Mitchell and Beastie Boy's and making a few lith prints.

Mixed up some Moersch 5 lith developer , with fotospeed lith , and Ilford Warmtone.

All I can say is Wow, this chem is really , really responsive and reminds me of the lith chems I was using in the 90's.

I do not work for any of the above company's but I am compelled to endorse the above products, what a combination.

Old Brown 1 litre , A B 1-8 dilution and my prints are coming up under 4mins and I am loving the results.

 

[Andrew Moxom]

Bob, the SE-5 kits are great, and with Wolfgang's additional components makes for a very controllable outome with a large number of papers.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Andrew and Bob,

Have you compared the Moersch product to Fotospeed LD20? I've not been able to work out whether the additional components for the SE-5 kit have generic equivalents that can be used with LD20, or whether one is better off buying the SE-5 kit for ease of use.

Tom

 

[Bob Carnie]

Tom

This chem reminds me very much like the old Champion Nova Lith originating from Mississauga Ontario.
when a and b are mixed a spew of white cloudy gunk is created** no sick minds here**
I have not seen this for quite awhile with the rollie , arista, macoe that I have been using since Champion went off the market.

even the smell reminds me like the old days.
I definately will start using the Moersch as a result of my unscientific testing.
I just really like the tone, speed and results.

smells like , looks like , taste like , it must be the good shit

Andrew and Bob,

Have you compared the Moersch product to Fotospeed LD20? I've not been able to work out whether the additional components for the SE-5 kit have generic equivalents that can be used with LD20, or whether one is better off buying the SE-5 kit for ease of use.

Tom

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

Ready for the addiction ? The additives are crazy. You will love it Bob.

 

[Bob Carnie]

The addiction has always been here, I am just happy to have found something that really works .. As you know 30 min dev is not for me , give me 4 min and look for the image to pop.
Now what papers beside Ilford Warmtone can I buy in mural size.. 100ft rolls, not these shitty little 30ft curly rolls.

Ready for the addiction ? The additives are crazy. You will love it Bob.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Bob,

Are the 30ft rolls really curlier than the 100ft rolls?

Tom

 

[Bob Carnie]

Absolutely, I really hate working with them.

Bob,

Are the 30ft rolls really curlier than the 100ft rolls?

Tom

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Do you only print on ILFORD photographic paper?

Tom

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

I like it when you hate working with them...

 

[PVia]

I believe that A+B of SE5 have no restrainers, therefore the quick response. Additives C+D add sulfite and bromide respectively.

What kind of tray/print life did you get with your mixture, Bob? I know you mix up quite a bit at one time...

 

[Bob Carnie]

Tom for the most part I use Ilford Warmtone, Ilford Mg4 glossy and Matt, as well the digital fibre paper.
All these papers come in 100ft rolls and are a breeze to work with.

Smaller rolls curl and create all kinds of nonsense when putting them on the easel, as well getting the first coating of developer on them.
A typical day will find me printing anywhere from 30 to 70 ft of paper so cutting from the same roll is good.
Also Ilfords packaging is first rate and I can cut from the box. The smaller length rolls from other vendors seem to be in less robust packaging.

I have been asking Mirko now for two years about his paper , but to date I have not seen it in mural size.

Do you only print on ILFORD photographic paper?

Tom

 

[Bob Carnie]

You like me to suffer .... Oh mon due

I like it when you hate working with them...

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Bob,

The ILFORD packaging certainly is superior to other brands, however MCC is a fantastic paper with a distinct look compared to ILFORD Warmtone. How do you cut the paper from the roll?

Tom

 

[Bob Carnie]

I mixed yesterday afternoon and pushed through about 20 sheets of 16x20 Ilford warmtone, for one client, I put a garbage bag over the developer and this morning I put through about 20 8x10 sheets of Fotospeed. Yesterday and Today was magic and I did not have to replenish. I really like this dev.

I mixed the bottle of A and B I believe to be about 600ml each , two litres of old brown, and 8 litres of water.
My exposure times were around 15 seconds two stops down, and about 3-4 minutes for the pull times.
So the tray lasted almost 24hours,

Anyone her know where I can buy larger sizes in bulk of this dev??

I believe that A+B of SE5 have no restrainers, therefore the quick response. Additives C+D add sulfite and bromide respectively.

What kind of tray/print life did you get with your mixture, Bob? I know you mix up quite a bit at one time...

 

[Tom Kershaw]

I mixed yesterday afternoon and pushed through about 20 sheets of 16x20 Ilford warmtone, for one client, I put a garbage bag over the developer and this morning I put through about 20 8x10 sheets of Fotospeed. Yesterday and Today was magic and I did not have to replenish. I really like this dev.

I mixed the bottle of A and B I believe to be about 600ml each , two litres of old brown, and 8 litres of water.
My exposure times were around 15 seconds two stops down, and about 3-4 minutes for the pull times.
So the tray lasted almost 24hours,

Anyone her know where I can buy larger sizes in bulk of this dev??

Wolfgang Moersch's e-mail address is in the contact panel:

http://www.moersch-photochemie.de/



Tom

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

That might be quite expensive. Contact Wolfgang.
He is a great guy.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Guillaume,

Looking at European and UK pricing, Fotospeed LD20 seems to be available at a lower price point compared to the Moersch product.

Tom

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

Yes but Bob wants the stuff from the crazy german chemist....
And Bob is the kind of stubborn guy...
Who speaks french in phonetic by the way...

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

Bob,
More seriously I understand your need to get lith fast to not spend too much time on each print.
But... Try a little bit more diluted and little bit more time in the tray.
Magic stuff. If you already get magic you might get "double magic"
Haha !

 

[tim rudman]

Bob,
More seriously I understand your need to get lith fast to not spend too much time on each print.
But... Try a little bit more diluted and little bit more time in the tray.
Magic stuff. If you already get magic you might get "double magic"
Haha !

Ha Ha. Guillaume is right Bob, you impatient man!
BTW LD20 is your original Novolith. Back on the market soon.
Didn't get my newsletter?
tim

 

[Marek Warunkiewicz]

I am so glad that you liked the chemicals! Now you know why I have a Sh!!%$@*load of chemistry around. Not because I am a packrat but because I love choice. Never know what will turn ones crank. Moersch rocks. But hey... 20 minutes? I really understand Bob's impatience. I too wish to get rid of the bad thoughts when standing over a developer bath for 20 minutes. Makes me think about wet jobs in Romania, get rid of the head of intelligence.... believing 9/11 was a conspiracy... yes but whose... aliens live among us posing as right-wing politicians to get rid of our free will..

Okay what I mean to say is that standing over a print for 20 minutes is not healthy!

 

[Guillaume Zuili]

20 minutes.... Pfff...

 

[Marek Warunkiewicz]

To clarify, the comment about "aliens live among us posing as right-wing politicians to get rid of our free will" was not meant to imply it was about something illusory, about something illusory... it is real.

 

[Marek Warunkiewicz]

Mr. Zuili, I puff away you Pff. ;-)