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DREW WILEY

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There are some things digital is much better at. For example, those nice flat Smartphones that everyone takes pictures with nowadays skip across
ponds much better than old film cameras.
 

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I have no idea about the ratio of 120 films vs 35mm films sold per year, but I can tell you that someone are buying loads of medium-format stuff from eBay and Keh and Lomo has even made a few for the weird-crowd.

So if anything, I would believe 120 is doing as good as, or better than, 35mm.

Me neither, and I don't know BH Photovideo's algorithm, but if you sort all roll films by "Best Sellers" Portra 400 in 120 format comes in at #2, so that seems promising (Portra 400 135 is #1)
 

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MF is so much more affordable now.

I have a Pentax 645n kit (35, 75,150,macro) which cost maybe $1200 all up. It would have cost $10k back in 97
 

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Where did this thread come from nobody has posted on it for thirteen years ?.

If one posts in a thread and deletes that posting again, that thread will nevertheless show up in ones "my posts" listing.
Most likely the same error will make that thread remain in the "new posts" listings and alike.

This would explain why you saw this thread showing up, with the last post being 13 years old.
 

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Digital, specifically processing digital, is easier on my back. Film and medium format is going to cost me a backache on top of the rods and screws at L4-S1, on top of $10/hrs lab rental. Even so, I'll suck it up to get the results I want.

I haven't sold any gear, in fact I'm buying MF an 35mm gear form the '70s. I'd love to try 4x5. Each - film and digital - has its place. It depends on what I want to deliver, and what I want to endure to get there.

Matt
 

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Digital is miserable on my back - and my fingers - and my butt! Have my assistant out for the next six months due to bone spurs in a shoulder,
a long-term effect of keyboards, just like carpal tunnel issues. I just spent a bunch of money above and beyond my health insurance coverage to
get my tendonitis fixed. Just five more months and I can retire from these damn computers for good! The last thing I want to do is work with images that way. By contrast, I find darkroom work fun, and also qualitatively superior.
 

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My funny sad story:

- I started photography in late 2005, and of course all i know about is just 35mm camera but didn't know the models, even i didn't know that Canon and Nikon were so popular, i thought Sony is the one, so i bought first that device which have 3 things at once, mp3, a webcam, and a camera itself, it was a good camera anyway.
- Not so long after that 3in1 gear, i forced my .... dad to give me money to buy another camera, and that time it was a real camera, Nikon Coolpix8800 as the salesman told me it is one of the best in market for its level, so i was happy with it for a while until i got into a photography workshop.
- That workshop enlighten me about cameras little more, there i heard about DSLR for first time, and not so long during that workshop i couldn't resist myself and bought my first DSLR ever, Canon 350D or Rebel XT, because the lecturer[lady] said it is the best affordable one, and that camera opened doors for me in photography.
- Jumping in years, i kept looking at different cameras models of 35mm digital, and shocked to know ore about it until one day i heard something about medium format, and that rang a bell in my head.
- So, by year 2007 i started to read more about medium format, and then i surprise more to know that it is higher level and more expensive than 35 DSLRs, and to my surprise and bad luck i found one local dealer who sell that digital medium format, actually two but one of them were very bad service customers on phone so i was pushed to the another dealer, who is the HASSELBLAD dealer.
- Not so long, in year 2008, beginning of it i think, January, i bought my first ever medium format camera, i saved for 1 year, and still didn't have the full money but the dealer helped me as i can be in monthly rates, so i did, and that camera was H3DII-39.
- During that time i started to find more about forums, and in many forums i keep reading about film being better than digital, i was in shock, i thought nothing can match digital that time, in fact once i bought my Hasselblad digital i was in .... for its quality, i was dying to have it and i did, the quality of it compared to 35 DSLR is something to speak, so when i read that film is giving even better results i couldn't sleep until i read more, and because of this digital medium format i started to read more about film medium format and found out that Hasselblad also has film bodies, so this was my start in film era.
- In 2009 i traded in my H3DII-39 to get H4D-60, but not so long i couldn't resist and bought Hassy 501C/M and Mamiya RZ67 ProII only bodies, and while i was in USA in October 2009 for vacation i bought a lot of films and 2 backs for my film cameras and 2 lenses to start which, one for each, so then i started to shoot film in 2010.

So, medium format changed my view in photography, and i really feel happy that i managed to afford something of MF, many couldn't, but still they are al for fun or hobby and i feel i wasted a lot of money really, and MF led me to LF, i signed in this forum back in 2009 to read more about film so that i was staying with MF and went with LF too, but didn't give those much of use, more with MF and much less with LF like i didn't use it at all, only 5 sheets so far.

If someone asking me if i made a mistake of buying MF either film or digital i will say never, i don't regret, and i will keep buying more of MF/LF gear once my financial situation getting better, i still love the quality of MF over 35mm either in film or digital, and film is being fun for me so i will give it more time in use sooner or later, and i will never look back into 35mm film unless i modify one of my MF gear for that, because i know if i want to go with 35mm film then i will never look less than Leica, and then i know how much thousands i have to spend again, only brand new, and not interested in equivalent brands even Canon/Nikon for 35mm film, and i have a friend who is shooting with film too and told me that nothing can beat Leica in 35mm club, but he said that even Leica is no match to MF and LF, he went to MF and LF because of me too.

After all, i keep buying whatever gear is available and i will never care if it will stay alive or die, have something, later if it is gone from market then at least it is not gone from my collection, the only way that medium format gear will gone i mean in film is if they stop producing MF film at all, because then no point to have MF without film for it, same for LF, 35mm film will live longer i feel than MF and LF, but let's hope they all stay alive much longer, i just started in film, and don't want to give it up so soon in less than 10-20 years.
 

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This is a great site I came across.

I have been a 35mm user since my first camera - a Pentax ME given to me for my 12th birthday. Many cameras later; last year I bought my first Hassey - a yellow 503CW. WOW! What a gorgeous camera. I haven't been able to put this feat of engineering down.

I find it forces me to go through the process of taking a picture - letting the creative juices flow - so to speak. I am discovering that this act appeals to me greatly.

So where am I going with this?

I feel the medium format is a dying breed, despite my personal rejuvenation. Everyone is going digital (for the worse in my opinion) and even Hassey went that way with their new H1. Unfortunately, the only saving grace for the medium format may be significantly less expensive digital backs. Currently at the $12-$20k range and at only 6 mpixels they are priced in the stupid area. If MF digital backs were less expensive, I think more people will go MF and in turn the format itself will live.

What do you all think?
I'M LOOKING FOR A REASONABLY-PRICES DIGITAL HASSELBLSD V BACK MYSELF BUT SINCE I HAVE THE NIKON D800, I WONDERED IF I REALLY NEED ONE.
 

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I'M LOOKING FOR A REASONABLY-PRICES DIGITAL HASSELBLSD V BACK MYSELF BUT SINCE I HAVE THE NIKON D800, I WONDERED IF I REALLY NEED ONE.

I have Sony A7R, and it is almost in same quality of D800, and still i prefer medium format digital sometimes, even i am planning to upgrade to D810 or A7rII from A7r and still not gonna get rid of my MFDB.

But i agree that if that digital back is about 30-40mp then i wouldn't think about it, if i will buy a digital medium format if i haven't one then i will think about minimum 50mp, now even my 60mp is not much and old fashion one, imagine!!!
 
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