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If the interior is in the camera's frame of view, the range of light values can exceed film's useful range. So one might anticipate the need for additional interior lighting and/or dodging and burning to get a pleasing print.
Do you mean metering from the outside into the car or house or inside the said buildings and metering for an outside shot while inside the buildings or both?
pentaxuser
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yes, Dick Tracy and Dick Timmy are in the car/apartment room and cant open the window for the shot.. so they need to know how to best point the camera at teh photo subject, and work the meter dial and aperture for a gooder exposure..
its hit and miss lately.. a slight angle to the surface of the lens to surface of widnow after composing shot,, even a slight fraction of a change from the spot on the window it was metered for can drop a whole stope by my crummy comparisons..
Use a spot meter for the brightest areas [highlights] and the darkest interior area that you want details to determine the exposure.
For example, this Friedlander image was made with flash on the camera inside the car. Without that the car interior will be nearly black when making a print to show the outside window with appropriate density. In this case the metering is only out side the window and you have to use experience to get the fill flash correctly. Friedlander is the master of this. I don't think he carries a meter.
This is my own image. I used the Nikon N80's built-in Matrix Metering. Which, BTW, I believe is one of the best exposure meters ever created for film cameras. Similar to the meter on F100, F5 and F6.
In this case there was enough light coming in from windows I did not use fill flash.
In this case there was enough light coming in from windows I did not use fill flash.
Light is light. Unless you are concerned about extraneous light reflected off the window (light a shop windo), just meter as you would for any scene, measuring what you want properly exposed.
This seems the easiest and simplest way, given what redbandit has said about the two Dicks' situation
pentaxuser
Unless there's a ferocious animal outside, I'd open the window. At least try to not shoot through tinted windows as the colors will shift. Windows are usually dirty and leave spots to edit off in the captured image.
You would be in good company. Friedlander opened his window in post 6, the B&W image, at least.
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Yes, he photographed non ferocious abandoned cars. Fortunately, no lions.
Actually using a flash like that requires setting it on "Fill Flash". That's similar to the shots where a person has the sun at their back and their face is in a shadow and black. You just want enough fill light to expose his face or the car interior in this case. The window must be rolled down. You can't use flash though the window or it will reflect the flash and ruin the shot.Yes, he photographed non ferocious abandoned cars. Fortunately, no lions.
Try that when looking through the lens,,, its REALLY fun. I suggest it to everyone.
Sometimes one cant get the window open due to weather. And one cant open the windshield can they?
And i try to keep the window closed when doing birds because in my early days getting bird s hots, i had the window open, screen out, and spent my afternoon shooing a bird out of the enclosed porch.
Regarding Friedlander, I assumed he carried window cleaning supplies with him for photographing through the front windshield, because the photos seemed so clear.
Apart from safari parks, I’m trying unsuccessfully to imagine that situation where the two Dicks can neither get out of the car/house nor open the window.
My daughter photographs objects in museums by pressing her phone right up against the glass. If your camera has TTL metering, pushing the lens hood right up against the glass should equally cut out the influence of reflections on the meter.
My daughter photographs objects in museums by pressing her phone right up against the glass. If your camera has TTL metering, pushing the lens hood right up against the glass should equally cut out the influence of reflections on the meter.
Well you'll find out in the next exciting episode of ....Actually maybe that was Flash Gordon and the two Dicks
pentaxuser
Not sure the flash he used (Metz?) had such settings. From what I remember of the book America by Car, (I unfortunately don't own that one) there is very little if any flash used to illuminate the car interior, the light is just ambient from all the windows in the greenhouse.
What glass? The glass covering the art? I bet the guards really love that.
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Here's just one (clever) example of his use of flash to illuminate the car interior and/or its contents.
Museums, not art galleries.
Still makes no difference. Except galleries in the US generally don't have guards.
Looks like he bounced the flash off the car roof interior liner. Not sure why, there is very little interior showing.cAnd it looks like it's blasting him in the face. too! But I am jealous you have the book. It is expensive nowadays.
Fear not, no guard has had his equilibrium rocked by my daughter stealing photos of prehistoric pots. Most museums in the UK seem to accept that such activity is unstoppable, so they justify it as part of their educational function - which it is. Besides, she is making the stuff that will be in tomorrow’s museums.
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