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Vouc for Mamiya TLR C's series. I would recommend the C330F since it introduce a lot of goodies to make the photo process more enjoyable.

Also lens are pretty good. Only thing it got beated by other systems is that they lack good wide lens. If you are not into extreme wide lens it is a pretty good system.

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I too use Fuji 6X9 RF "Texas Leicas". They're quite dependable and no-nonsense, no battery, but fixed lens. I really like the larger more extended rectangle of 6x9, of the same shape as 35mm images. When I need interchangeable lenses, I go with my Pentax 6x7 system - yes, a simple battery; but it seems to last for years, and matches the battery in my Pentax spot meter. You need a battery in your light meter regardless, unless its a really ancient selenium cell one.

Then there are roll film backs for view cameras and their huge variety of leaf-shutter lenses. Sometimes handheld tweaks accepting these kind of backs have been made with helical focus mounts and sports finders or external rangefinders, which in effect might be classified as medium format cameras per se, since they are not really view cameras. Or there are "technical cameras" in roll film sizes, a kinda hybrid concept, like the "Baby Technika" or Horseman equivalent. Quite a few options if you want to go down that route. "Press cameras" like old Graflexes are analogous, but not as fancy.
 
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I don’t understand why people are so afraid of batteries.
 
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I don’t understand why people are so afraid of batteries.
My large format lens' shutter speeds are all over the place as are my RB67 built-in lens shutters, all manual. For comparison, my Nikon 35mm N6006's SLR electronic shutter speeds, around 35 years old, are right on perfect on all speeds I checked. (shutter is built in the camera). When I checked shutter speeds last year I was frankly amazed considering I had not used the camera in the previous 15 years. I just replaced the battery and tested it. Now, I can't vouch for a fifty-year-old large-format lens' electronic shutter. But the Nikon 35mm camera was right on.
 

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100%.
That is why I avoid mechanical cameras. Apart from my perkeo II and some old Russian 35s from my grand father.
 

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The Mamiya Press series of cameras also do not require batteries. (Of course, there's always the meter that requires batteries.)
 

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The Mamiya Press series of cameras also do not require batteries. (Of course, there's always the meter that requires batteries.)
I have a few meters that don't require batteries. Surprisingly, they work well. Sometimes you have to clean (VERY CAREFULLY) the contact areas on the Selienum cell.
 

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Afraid of batteries? Not necessarily. It is sometimes just a reliability issue; a camera that doesn't need batteries at all won't be unusable if the battery fails and you don't have a spare on hand. Batteries are also affected by cold weather. And if left in a camera too long, sometimes people discover nasty corrosion when they pick up that neglected camera a few years later. In the bigger picture, there are in fact a tremendous number of counterfeit-branded batteries on the market. That is more likely to affect very common AA or D cells or power tool batteries. And many shops and houses have indeed burned down because of them, or else funky chargers. There has been a rash of smart phone fires due to improperly built batteries So that is a legitimate general fear, though it's statistically far less likely too occur with small ordinary camera batteries. Just plain lousy camera batteries sometimes do turn up, with short lifespans.
 

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I don’t understand why people are so afraid of batteries.
Because batteries eventually die or no longer hold a charge, and the particular type might no longer be available. A camera that relies on batteries for essential functions such as shutter, diaphragm and film advance will be rendered useless.
 
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I had a weird experience with buying batteries on Amazon. I ordered AA or AAA bats in a 4 or 8 pack blister pack. The ad on Amazon said the seller was Duracell, not some off-brand. The batteries that arrived were Duracell but the expiration date on the batteries was stamped 2017 three years earlier and the expiration date on the printed package was like 5/2020 a few months before the date I bought them. How can the same pack have two different dates on them and both past their expiration dates? So I returned them. I had a similar experience with film, with the expiration date only a few months hence. So I returned those and bought a replacement from B&H with had a thirteen-month hence date. You have to be careful from Amazon as they appear to have their stuff sitting on shelves for a while and no one checks dates.
 

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I had a weird experience with buying batteries on Amazon. I ordered AA or AAA bats in a 4 or 8 pack blister pack. The ad on Amazon said the seller was Duracell, not some off-brand. The batteries that arrived were Duracell but the expiration date on the batteries was stamped 2017 three years earlier and the expiration date on the printed package was like 5/2020 a few months before the date I bought them. How can the same pack have two different dates on them and both past their expiration dates? So I returned them. I had a similar experience with film, with the expiration date only a few months hence. So I returned those and bought a replacement from B&H with had a thirteen-month hence date. You have to be careful from Amazon as they appear to have their stuff sitting on shelves for a while and no one checks dates.
There are fishy sellers on Amazon Marketplace. Batteries are sometimes seconds/copies/who-knows-what. Price is a good, but not always reliable indicator of the genuineness. I use Eneloop rechargeable AA AAA batteries, they seem to last forever.
 

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I had a weird experience with buying batteries on Amazon. I ordered AA or AAA bats in a 4 or 8 pack blister pack. The ad on Amazon said the seller was Duracell, not some off-brand. The batteries that arrived were Duracell but the expiration date on the batteries was stamped 2017 three years earlier and the expiration date on the printed package was like 5/2020 a few months before the date I bought them. How can the same pack have two different dates on them and both past their expiration dates? So I returned them. I had a similar experience with film, with the expiration date only a few months hence. So I returned those and bought a replacement from B&H with had a thirteen-month hence date. You have to be careful from Amazon as they appear to have their stuff sitting on shelves for a while and no one checks dates.

what you probably experienced is that Amazon usually intermixes stock from all the listed sellers, so it may list that you are buying from the most reputable seller in the world, but the stock that is pulled and shipped to you may have been put on that shelf by a scam artist. I don’t know if they do that for everything, but it is very common.
 

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Because batteries eventually die or no longer hold a charge, and the particular type might no longer be available. A camera that relies on batteries for essential functions such as shutter, diaphragm and film advance will be rendered useless.
But then you have 2 more batteries in your wallet and 20 in the car. Or Walgreens/walmart on the corner.
Pretty much all batteries are available.
 

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what you probably experienced is that Amazon usually intermixes stock from all the listed sellers, so it may list that you are buying from the most reputable seller in the world, but the stock that is pulled and shipped to you may have been put on that shelf by a scam artist. I don’t know if they do that for everything, but it is very common.
SECOND Pieter12!
Eneloop NIMH rechargbles. I have used 1000s. never a problem. Manufacturing date is always few months from the purchase date.
 
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There are fishy sellers on Amazon Marketplace. Batteries are sometimes seconds/copies/who-knows-what. Price is a good, but not always reliable indicator of the genuineness. I use Eneloop rechargeable AA AAA batteries, they seem to last forever.
How do you know you're getting Eneloop when you buy from Amazon?
 
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what you probably experienced is that Amazon usually intermixes stock from all the listed sellers, so it may list that you are buying from the most reputable seller in the world, but the stock that is pulled and shipped to you may have been put on that shelf by a scam artist. I don’t know if they do that for everything, but it is very common.
Then why did Amazon list Duracell as the seller? They should list the third party if that's the case. That's on Amazon.
 

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The smart counterfeiters intermix phony batteries with the real deal. That's how it works. Sometimes it's even done at the port of entry. Near here, at the Port of Oakland where a great many cargo ships arrive, dock workers have even been caught with counterfeit security seals to the containers themselves, after the fact. It's a huge problem, especially when it comes to counterfeit auto parts, but affects many other kinds of products too. Wal-Mart rigged a paperwork system to bypass inspections. And in the tool repair dept adjunct to my own position, we caught Home Depot doing high-volume battery switch-outs for cordless drills. The problem got so bad overall that Makita had to send out special letters warning of the counterfeiting epidemic and how to detect it.

And of course, ordinary battery shipments brought down at least two freight airliners due to explosive onboard fires. Now there are restrictions on shipping batteries by air. Even NASA, who should know better, lost a two billion dollar satellite prototyping structure due to use of a generic lithium battery in the assembly room. Ordinarily, lithium batteries are completely banned for aerospace applications; but I guess they thought that since they were still on the ground, they could make an exception.

So how do you detect it? It can be difficult, since the look-alike skills and packaging has gotten so much better over time. But look for small anomalies or typos on the package. If there is a stack of batteries on a store hook, see if the serial or date numbers exists in a logical sequence. I one of the batteries you bought from the same source previously failed prematurely, get suspicious. Avoid discount brands. I've had good luck with Varta silver oxide, but have used Duracell without incident, even though, being a major brand, they do get counterfeited at times.

Costco often contracts for second-quality items. Its not like buying eggs or cheese there. And Amazon is a giant octopus with its tentacles all over the place. They license their search engine and payment method to all kinds of businesses, some of which are quite shady. They do a poor job monitoring for counterfeiting, even in their own distribution inventory. So just do a little extra homework when ordering using the Amazon site. There will be plenty of legit vendors to choose from too.
 
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Costco often contracts for second-quality items
I started buying AA and AAA batteries from Costco after I received a set of Eneloop batteries from a seller on Amazon Marketplace that had obviously been either used or at least opened. Someone had taken a Sharpie and filled in the "0"s on several batteries. With Costco, I can return the batteries if they seem suspect.
 

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Well, that's the other trick - dealers slipping used batteries back into allegedly new boxes.
 

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Then why did Amazon list Duracell as the seller? They should list the third party if that's the case. That's on Amazon.

They dont know who owns which specific item. The stock is intermingled. Vendor A provides Amazon 30 boxes of batteries, Vendor B provides 60 boxes, and vendor C provides 10. So amazon has 100 on thier shelf and they know 30 belong to A, but Amazon doesn't know which 30. When you decide to buy 8 boxes from Vendor A because their price is better, Amazon sees the boxes as fungible, and grabs which ever are on the top, whether they originally came from Vendor A, B or C.

This means that reputable sellers on amazon and shady sellers on amazon have their stock mixed up. Its one of the MANY reasons I haven't shopped on amazon, except for certain rare things, in over 10 years. I'll but from B&H, Adorama, Sweetwater.

(I did buy a Bogen QR plate that was discontinued 10 years ago from Amazon recently, but thats because it was the only place that had it listed for sale.)
 

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Costco will return to the shelves items that are returned and appear to be unopened and unused.
Most likely someone screwed up.
 
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