Phenidone dissolves well in warm Propylene Glycol. I have prepared 1% and 5% stock solutions and they haven't changed over many years now.
When it comes to Bromide, you can mix an 1% stock solution in water and be done with it. It will last forever. I do wonder, which Mytol formula you use, though. I have seen a credible report about three versions of Mytol, neither of which lists bromide ...
Borax | 1.4 |
Sodium sulfite | 60 |
Ascorbic acid | 11.5 |
Sodium carbonate monohydrate | 5.64 |
Phenidone | 0.15 |
Development times are nearly the same as XTOL, tonality is pretty similar.
Yes, it's not a replacement for XTOL if you want a solvent developer. I wasn't trying to imply that it is, only that it's simple to make and has a lot of what @BHuij was looking for. Since they like Rodinal and HC-110 it seems inline with those expectations. Still, the Ilford films in particular seem to exhibit pretty good grain behavior in PC-512 Borax. Here's Kentmere 400:But it gives a bit more grain, doesn't it? Not that this is a problem per se, but for me, one of the reasons for using an XTOL-derivative is its grain rendition especially on higher speed films.
@Rudeofus has indeed given the crucial answers. A solution of phenidone in glycol (I prefer propylene as it's non-toxic) will last a long time; I've never had mine go bad. 1% is convenient for Mytol-purposes in my experience. Powdered phenidone remains viable for a long time; I don't know where the stories come from that it would expire in a matter of a few years, let alone shorter.
I suppose many of us have our Mytol recipes; here's the one I always use; makes 1 liter:
Adjust pH to 8.20 by adding drops of a NaOH (pH up) or acetic acid (down) solution. Frankly, I don't bother anymore these days and just use it as is under the assumption that my methods and materials should consistently yield the same outcome, even if that happens to be slightly 'off' from the official standard.
Borax 1.4Sodium sulfite 60Ascorbic acid 11.5Sodium carbonate monohydrate 5.64Phenidone 0.15
In my experience, the formula above is a bit faster than official XTOL (stock; undiluted); which is to say that at least in some films (esp. Fomapan 100), I get a higher gamma than I'd expect given the XTOL development parameters. Then again, I ran a roll of Delta 100 yesterday and this looks pretty normal to me, so the performance should be "in the ballpark" alright. For me, some deviation from official XTOL performance is inconsequential, but if it's important to you, make sure to benchmark your XTOL clone (whichever one you end up using) with genuine XTOL and then adjust development recipes accordingly.
The rationale behind the formula I posted is to replace the metaborate (which I didn't happen to have) with the same stuff made in situ from borax and sodium carbonate. It also replaces the ascorbate called for in most recipes with ascorbic acid - again a matter of what I did vs. didn't have tucked away in a closet somewhere. This explains the difference in buffering/activator ingredients and ascorbic acid content between the formula posted above by @momus and mine.
I once worked out the chemistry and conversion math to get to the formula above, but sadly didn't save my notes, so I'd have to reconstruct them. If you feel like it, it would be a nice exercise so you could then point out the possible errors in my approach
There are basically two reasons I want to try this stuff, advantages that XTOL is supposed to have over HC-110. First is fine grain.
The other is film speed.
If I'm understanding correctly, your recipe makes a stock solution that should be more or less equivalent to XTOL stock. That means I'd want to halve the recipe in the same amount of water to get 1:1 working strength, correct?
If you were going to do rotary processing with this Mytol recipe diluted 1+1, what would you rate your FP4+ at?
On the subject of the difficulty of weighing tiny amounts of phenidone, this post from Sandy King, the inventor of Pyrocat-HD, suggests that precision is not as important as we might think.
Dimezone-S instead of phenidone in Pyrocat-HD?
I have acquired some Dimezone-S which is reputed to be a better-keeping variety of phenidone. I'm interested in knowing if anyone has tried it, and if so any advice about equivalent quantities. Someone on the old pure-silver list suggested that I substitute equivalent molar weights (i.e...www.photrio.com
I use a "digital pocket scale" 0-200g with has worked well for at least 10 years and $10-20 investment.
It has worked well for such quantities of chemicals. I make pyrocat hdc with it every year or so as well as some alt process chemicals.
For small quantities of liquid, I have disposable 3ml pipettes marked with 1,2,3 ml marks, and dayquil/nyquil/kidsmedicine cups for 0-15ml and 0-30ml which are nicely marked with black lines on clear plastic.
I use a "digital pocket scale" 0-200g with has worked well for at least 10 years and $10-20 investment.
It has worked well for such quantities of chemicals. I make pyrocat hdc with it every year or so as well as some alt process chemicals.
For small quantities of liquid, I have disposable 3ml pipettes marked with 1,2,3 ml marks, and dayquil/nyquil/kidsmedicine cups for 0-15ml and 0-30ml which are nicely marked with black lines on clear plastic.
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