Massive Film Curl!!

Sirius Glass · Mar 1, 2015

brian steinberger said:
Thanks Neal, I plan to get some. Any in particular you recommend?

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/635111-Arista-Plastic-Film-Clip-Set-of-2

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/66361-Arista-Stainless-Steel-Film-Clips-2-pack

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/58050-Stainless-Steel-Film-Clips-2-pack

heespharm · Mar 1, 2015

brian steinberger said:
Thanks Neal, I plan to get some. Any in particular you recommend?

I'm telling u chip clips are very effective... Unless you're concerned with having a professional looking operation ... Then they are ridiculous looking hahaha... The teethy ones grip well and let water escape past the teeth

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brian steinberger · Mar 1, 2015

heespharm said:
I'm telling u chip clips are very effective... Unless you're concerned with having a professional looking operation ... Then they are ridiculous looking hahaha... The teethy ones grip well and let water escape past the teeth

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Thanks! I was gonna look at them and also the binder type clips from office supply stores. Just wasn't sure if there were some actual film clips that I could get.

My operation is definately not professional! Haha.

Patrick Robert James · Mar 1, 2015

Skip the binder clips. They rust.

albada · Mar 1, 2015

Brian,

Here's an off-topic comment: In the pictures of your roll, you included a bit of your darkroom, and I noticed that you store your beakers upright. I suggest storing beakers upside-down to prevent dust from accumulating in them. Dust in developer or fixer might stick to your film. Or maybe you shoot enough that it's never a problem...

Mark Overton

brian steinberger · Mar 1, 2015

Patrick Robert James said:
Skip the binder clips. They rust.

Thanks Patrick, good to know!

brian steinberger · Mar 1, 2015

albada said:
Brian,

Here's an off-topic comment: In the pictures of your roll, you included a bit of your darkroom, and I noticed that you store your beakers upright. I suggest storing beakers upside-down to prevent dust from accumulating in them. Dust in developer or fixer might stick to your film. Or maybe you shoot enough that it's never a problem...

Mark Overton

Thanks Mark. I usually do shoot a bunch, especially this time of year. And since I just got my new darkroom set up I have quite the backlog of film to develop!

brian steinberger · Mar 21, 2015

So just to update everyone, the humidity in my darkroom has gone up to 50% and this problem is completely gone. Didn't need a light, nor a fan in my drying cabinet, didn't need new film clips, just needed more humidity. I purchased a humidifier for next winter to keep humidity up. Also I wanted to add that I've developed some Tri-x from when Kodak still made it and also some of the newer KA Tri-x and there is no difference in how they dry. Just wanted to clear the air on that which was rumored earlier in this thread.

MattKing · Mar 21, 2015

brian steinberger said:
So just to update everyone, the humidity in my darkroom has gone up to 50% and this problem is completely gone. Didn't need a light, nor a fan in my drying cabinet, didn't need new film clips, just needed more humidity. I purchased a humidifier for next winter to keep humidity up. Also I wanted to add that I've developed some Tri-x from when Kodak still made it and also some of the newer KA Tri-x and there is no difference in how they dry. Just wanted to clear the air on that which was rumored earlier in this thread.

Brian:

Eastman Kodak is still making all Kodak film. Kodak Alaris just markets it (at least the still films).

Does your Tri-X say Kodak Alaris on the packaging? If so, it will be the first film I've heard of that reflects Kodak Alaris on the packaging. I've seen some of the photo-chemistry with Kodak Alaris on the packaging.

I've got a feeling they have a whole bunch of prepaid packaging they are trying to use up.

brian steinberger · Mar 21, 2015

MattKing said:
Brian:

Eastman Kodak is still making all Kodak film. Kodak Alaris just markets it (at least the still films).

Does your Tri-X say Kodak Alaris on the packaging? If so, it will be the first film I've heard of that reflects Kodak Alaris on the packaging. I've seen some of the photo-chemistry with Kodak Alaris on the packaging.

I've got a feeling they have a whole bunch of prepaid packaging they are trying to ues up.

Oh ok, thanks for clarifying this Matt. I know the new Tri-x has lighter grey backing paper rather than the older darker gray.

Pat Erson · Dec 28, 2016

Have Kodak finally cured the curling problem?
I've been plagued by it for years with 135 TRI-X films : no matter what I did (slow drying high humidity level in my darkroom) I'd always get films that were bent so much it was hard to insert them into their filing sleeves.

Well NO MORE! I just processed a bunch of TRI-X and I'm glad to report I cut some flatter than flat films! As docile as HP-5!

Fyi they're from a "03/2018" "1921" batch.

Jim Jones · Dec 28, 2016

Negatives can be flattened by storing them in wallets which store the film face to face and back to back, unlike the flat files in which the negatives all face the same direction. For decades I've used 35-7A wallets from Print File, Inc., which unfortunately are no longer available.

Peter Schrager · Dec 28, 2016

I just tried a roll of 120 foma film...you want see curl!...I never have a problem with kodak or ilford..ever

Gerald C Koch · Dec 28, 2016

I always us a metal film clip the added width over just using a clothes pin is quite dramatic. The clips that I use for 35 mm have an added lead weight in them.

BTW the only film that I have observed that just does not curl or cup is Eastman Double-X. A joy to work with it remains completely flat in the enlarger carrier.

How much a film curls depends on whether it has a backing layer or not. The 120 films usually have a gelatin backing layer. The tendency to curl is thus counteracted.

Sirius Glass · Dec 28, 2016

jvo · Dec 29, 2016

i've used patterson weighted clips on 35mm and 120... in cold basement, florida humidity, a/c cooled, northern and southern climes, only fans and more.

never had any curl... maybe it's been just luck - sure hope i won't be hexed now!!!

nbagno · Dec 30, 2016

Mine curls like that... that's why I just close the door and don't watch it. When I open the door again it's straight... just like magic

removed account4 · Dec 30, 2016

negative sleeves
then something flat and heavy on top ot it
eventually they will flatten, sometimes better than others
i have film that is still not completely flat after being under flat weight for
a while. que sera sera ...

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