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Don't know if anyone has seen this or if its been posted before but someone has a serious amount of paper for sale on ebay uk.

item 130272417179

Nothing to do with me and if i get stiffed for posting this or in the wrong place, my apologies, but it looked a good bargain for someone here.
 

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Anyone fancy going part shares on this lot?

If there were say 4 or 5 of us we could comfortably split up both the cost and the spoils without it overwhelming any of us.

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I wish I could, I keep drooling over it.... but, wife n kids say no.
 

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It's a strange one. He has a shop but isn't a powerseller and from the description doesn't know much about the origins of the paper. No indication of origins or age. He needs the space but if he has a shop even this amount shouldn't take up that much space. He obviously hasn't studied the market or has he? This stuff if sold in smaller quantities could get him a fortune but if this stuff is fogged then selling it that way gets him a bad reputation and might spoil the chances of selling the rest. He talks of A3 and A4 sizes which is unusual for darkroom paper. I wonder how he came upon this stock without being able to say more about its origins? The feedback doesn't indicate what his main items were and he seems to buy as much as sell.

Time is so short now but a visit to his shop might have been worthwhile. Certainly a few questions might be or have been worthwhile. I find that you can often tell a lot from the responses. Depending on the eventual winning bid it might be the bargain of the century. You can call me suspicious of potential gift horses but there are a number of unanswered questions here which bother me.

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This one has really got me interested

Clearly, the bloke has absolutely no idea what he is selling - I think he probably means there is some 12x16 and what I think looks like 20x16.

It also looks like the majority is MGRC but with some WT & FB mixed in :smile:

It depends what the final bids are - but it could be the bargain of the decade - even if half of it is fogged - its an awful lot of contact printing paper and first proofing - my fridge/freezer won't cope :D

There is way too much paper for one person to buy outright and no retailer is going to want to touch such potentially damaged goods.

My problem is I am house bound at the moment and he needs the buyer to collect :sad:

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Martin As of 10:45pm tonight with really only tomorrow morning to go its now £120. Looks as if two bidders at least are going to fight it out. They might be intending to use it in their respective darkrooms but I doubt it. Expect to see it on e-bay in dribs and drabs for weeks to come but this time hopefully appropriately labelled in terms of size and RC/FB and paper surface.

It the winner is a quick buck merchant then expect to see " cannot inspect so no guarantee and buy as seen". On the other hand if he/she is a no risk, reliable seller and you would fit this bill then he/she should remove a sheet at random from each box and develop then state that such a check was carried out, found to be OK and the buyer can expect the other sheets to all be in similar condition.

If there are all OK or even slightly fogged and can be rescued by benzotriazole/potassium bromide then there might be a steady income stream here , given the recent increase in price. I'd buy some RC Satin if its there, off you at a reasonable profit to you and there must be others here who'd do the same but I'd suspect that correspondence and postage and packing time might be quite a drain on your time.

It will be interesting to see by how much the winning bid rises. In the old days a camera club might have bid but nowadays you'd need quite a large syndicate to make use of the paper in the shelf life time it might have left and then there's the problem of its re-distribution to the syndicate members.

If I were head of Leamington College photographic classes, I might take a chance and if it turns out OK then advertise the B&W evening classes or full time student classes with free paper thrown in.

You've got 5 days to collect and I suspect that provided you had paid, this 5 days might be more flexible than the seller is actually admitting to.


I am risk averse and a small user but recognise that anyone who isn't deserves to profit from the risk.

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I am just going to keep an eye on it

Your right, at 120 its moved out of the "give away" region into the relm of "interesting"

What price it will end up at - who knows - I can never figure out E-Bay prices

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Looks like all RC paper, so if that is what you're using decide how much it's worth to you, follow the auction until 20 seconds before it ends, and enter that amount. If you win it - great! If not, you were not going to pay that price anyway.
I've never seen that much paper in one place before, not even the lab I used to work at. Lifetime supply. I would buy it and sell it box by box. Sure thing to make a profit.
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If this was local, I'd be tempted. The last time I saw this amount of paper for sale was anat a camera auction up here. All Agfa with lots of chemistry. Shoulda bid on it as it went for under a hundred I think.
 

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I missed out

It went for 140UK Pounds - which is still a bargain for 80 boxes of paper - most was RC but there was some FB, WT and CT papers in there as well.

Quite what I would have done with THAT much paper was something I hadn't figured out.

That’s the trouble with E-Bay - you suddenly lust after something you probably didn't need or really want :confused:

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Hopefully the buyer will categorise the boxes and try and establish their age and storage conditions, although there may be little chance of getting beyond step 1.

If he/she has any sense the boxes will be released in packs quickly. If it's "sell box one before listing box two" then with 80 odd boxes,some of the boxes could be very old before listing.

The downside for buyers is that a steady stream of ever older paper is released as opposed to the usual bargain of paper from the A level student who bought too much 6 months ago and has now completed the course.

Hopefully the seller will be open and honest about the what he/she may not know about the paper. Otherwise its caveat emptor and I for one would want to ask questions to try and distinguish this paper source from the seller who has only a couple of packets for sale and can vouch for age and conditions.

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I thought about it then stopped.

The Irish Apuggers had about that much paper for free from my car on the last Ilford visit mostly Kodak. OK the sizes were smaller, mainly postcard size & at the largest 10x8 :D

I have a similar sized stash of paper left, probably larger, rolls & rolls of Kodak, boxes of Ilford and some very old but good Kentmere. I tested every box, even the 60's Kodak Bromide & Bromesko was fine and probably within half a grade of manufacture, although possibly a lot slower. The Ilford papers were equally as good. However modern Sterling was useless it was mottled & fogged, these were all stored on the same shelf. Kodak VC papers lost a lot of contrast, Ilford VC papers hadn't. There isn't a logic.

I realised if you buy such a big amount of paper you should plan to use it.

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So that’s what the Irish lot were looking at in the boot of a car at Ilford - you all looked very suspicious !

If I had won I am not exactly sure about what I would have done with quite that much paper - hadn't figured that one out as I didn't quite know exactly the contents of the consignment.

I was hoping to sell a little on to some of my fellow APUGers

However, I have a FE Colleague local to me that still has a Darkroom and still teaches analogue B&W as part of its course - so would have donated some of the RC to them.

Oh well - it’s all rather academic now anyway :smile:

Martin
 
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