Making Money in Photography

[removed account4]

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"Archival" isn't a serious debate in museums or (most) galleries because all of them prioritize the image.

just emailed back and forth with a colleague who works at a museum
to make sure i wasn't FOS ... sorry, to disappoint ....
yes, galleries and museums might not care about an image lasting 900 years
but they care about longevity and issues the work might have. its an investment....

Interesting first question; I really do not know what that situation would be here in Australia regarding purchase and forward reproduction, with the exception of the National Library of Australia -- it accepts noteworthy bodies of works (photographs for example) from prominent, known artists (living or deceased) of any type, including estate bequeaths of original works (slides, negatives, plates, etc.) which they e.g. scan and reproduce for publicity purposes. State galleries accept mounted/framed works on any medium (but not raw).

The State Library of Victoria, where I am in this State, has newspaper spreads dating back 170 years in excellent condition but they are only shown in specific circumstances due to their age, value and the requirement of being stored in a purified environment.

sounds like they are running by the same guidelines as places on this side of the equator

 

[jtk]

It's a rare museum that buys photos as "investments." If they buy any art at all, they buy the artists name. They have a hard enough time occasionally exhibiting, then getting rid of donations. Museum boards are not idiots...being investors themselves they understand basic economics so don't let salaried staff pretend.

 

[faberryman]

It's a rare museum that buys photos as "investments." If they buy any art at all, they buy the artists name. They have a hard enough time occasionally exhibiting, then getting rid of donations. Museum boards are not idiots...being investors themselves they understand basic economics so don't let salaried staff pretend.

Pretend what?

 

[removed account4]

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It's a rare museum that buys photos as "investments." If they buy any art at all,.....so don't let salaried staff pretend.

museums don't buy or sell art?!
collections staff is pretending?!
LOL you have to be kidding ...
DUDE, thats really kind of funny

 

[jtk]

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museums don't buy or sell art?!
collections staff is pretending?!
LOL you have to be kidding ...
thats really kind of funny

Look up the word "investment." Investment is made to make money over time, not to spend it. Buying and selling isn't "investment." Collections staff is an expense item: accumulates and (continually) labors to get rid of donated objects. They often buy to please financial donors and have to sit on those purchases until the donors die and the junque can be thinned out..

Useful to know the meanings of terms like these.

 

[jtk]

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...new-investment-choice-rich-shunning-paintings

 

[faberryman]

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...new-investment-choice-rich-shunning-paintings

Markets go up and down. Paintings down and photography up. Photography down and paintings up. Photography up and paintings up. Photography down and paintings down. Who knows where it will be next year? In five years. In ten years. Investment? Speculation?

 

[removed account4]

Look up the word "investment." Investment is made to make money over time, not to spend it. Buying and selling isn't "investment." Collections staff is an expense item: accumulates and (continually) labors to get rid of donated objects. They often buy to please financial donors and have to sit on those purchases until the donors die and the junque can be thinned out..

Useful to know the meanings of terms like these.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...new-investment-choice-rich-shunning-paintings

LOL whatever DUDE...

please contact a collections person at a museum or a high end gallery rep and ask them if they
collect + sell things that don't retain their value

 

[jtk]

Urgent Notice to Archivers:

Gather up your treasured snaps and hurry on down to your local museums!

Don't delay! Time is money!

Collections staffs be hot to invest in your art, especially the gen-yoo-wine mystery-tone out-date wannabe neo-Holga street stuff! Your blurry water! Your lovely footpaths! Your nekkid ladies!

Friendly collection staffs be a-waiting for you!

Do that or they won't know how to find you or where to send your money!

Times awasting!

 

[removed account4]

you might gain some insights and knowledge by
having a conversation who works in a museum or high end gallery
no one ever said ink jet prints can't be nice
but the problem is no one knows how long the nice will last...
( even folks at the new england docuument conservaton center have
no clue how long an ink jet print will last )

 

[faberryman]

Urgent Notice to Archivers:

From whence does your antipathy with photographers who attempt to process their images to last as long as possible arise? Given the pride you express in your ancestral images, I would have thought you would be sympathetic to their objectives, instead of constantly mocking them.

 

[jtk]

From whence does your antipathy with photographers who attempt to process their images to last as long as possible arise? Given the pride you express in your ancestral images, I would have thought you would be sympathetic to their objectives, instead of constantly mocking them.

Amusing! All of my family's silver prints were probably archival by the standards of their day, some flawless and some decayed beyond restoration. Hard to avoid for us today to print "archivally" if we play by the common rules.

There seems to be a lot more archival anxiety on many of Photrio's Forums than about images.

Me, I find images are more important than archival status....many others seem not to prioritize images.

Yes, I'm proud of my photo ancestry. They were cutting edge in their day. Thanks to digital techniques their images are preserved (archived?) online, in various backup devices, and by distribution after scanning and printing to 7 close adult family members. That distribution has already elevated potential longterm survival of my family's photos into at least two more generations...odds favor replication.

How many "archival" prints will survive for even two generations unless they're duplicated in some way and distributed the way I've done?

 

[removed account4]

Amusing!

LOL , sure is amusing !
you didn't even answer his question..

 

[jtk]

LOL , sure is amusing !
you didn't even answer his question..

He can speak for himself, right? Show him some respect.

 

[removed account4]

He can speak for himself, right? Show him some respect.

LOL
TOO FUNNY DUDE!
"mr pot meet mr kettle"
as the great stonenyc would say: LOL HAHAHA

 

[Sirius Glass]

Please do not feed the trolls.

 

[removed account4]

Please do not feed the trolls.

sorry i have goldfish and they always look hungry !i
i have only had to have the guy at the fish store come once
with scuba gear to help me out ***, i will try to be better next time
thanks !
john
*** http://seuss.wikia.com/wiki/A_Fish_Out_Of_Water

 

[jtk]

Yes, I'm proud of my photo ancestry. They were cutting edge in their day. Thanks to digital techniques their images are preserved (archived?) online, in various backup devices, and by distribution after scanning and printing to 7 close adult family members. That distribution has already elevated potential longterm survival of my family's photos into at least two more generations...odds favor replication.

How many "archival" prints will survive for even two generations unless they're duplicated in some way and distributed the way I've done? [/QUOTE]
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That's a serious question, by the way.

If one is concerned about survival of their photographs, far into the future, doesn't it make sense to make multiple prints and distribute them to places that matter? Such as close family members?

Why is that obvious archival technique never mentioned? No families? How about friends?