cvik said:edz:
I didn't know Efke was gone allthough I've noticed the name change. I doubt it's because of Maco though. But, does this mean Efke, Forte, Agfa, Rollei and Maco are just selling film while supplies last? What about the new Rollei films? (R3 and Pan25 didn't, AFAIK, exist under a different brand before). What about Forte paper?
I don't use Ilford products except for PanF and peceptol. If the companies above are gone I'll probably go over to the dark side. Anyone interested in an enlarger or cameras?
jandc said:As usual edz doesn't have a clue what he's babbling about.
What do you mean by "new runs"? Are they coating or fabricating? There is a big difference. MINOX, for instance, is still fabricating Minopan 25 cartridges for their submini cameras (Minopan 25 is the long discontinued APX25 which was last coated years ago). Ask Mirko when he thinks some of the films you are getting were coated! Ask David Foy when he thinks the Bluefire Police film he sells was coated.....Efke is producing film as we speak including new runs of the ortho films, PL25 and PL100 along with paper.
I never claimed otherwise. In the case of "New Ekfe" I just pointed out that "I'm not quite clear what they are doing."Forte is is also producing paper and film.
The question is: Are they coating (The same question I've asked Cybergraphics, the current name for Oriental, http://www.cybergraphics.co.jp/ about their papers and have recieved no answer) ???Efke's restructuring last year was to eliminate excess labor costs that like with other companies that have gone into bankruptcy couldn't fire anyone.
I'm under the impression that for colour materials there is still ripening routinely done (despite vast improvements in dye couplers). We've, however, been addressing B&W materials and the companies I've familiar with tend to have a working cycle that includes ripening. Historical left over or needed?Photo Engineer said:Just a quick note in response to EDZs post above.
I used to get production runs of color materials right from the end of the coating machine, and I would process them for 'first tests' as we called it.
The film or paper was supposed to meet release specifications at that instant.
Did EK not ripen their B&W films and papers or did they cut them, box them and ship? Or did they not effectively include ripening by virtue of the production process (master rolls are called jumbos for good reason)?Most products of present manufacture can be sold immediately after coating AFAIK.
severian said:Somebody, somewhere must have a formula for Rodinal and while I'm at it how about HC-110 since it will probably go away soon.
Donald Qualls said:I've recently been using a Rodinal substitute made from acetaminophen tablets, lye drain opener, and sodium sulfite; I hope to get some KBr to add to the next batch, but as is it works pretty well at the Rodinal times, and gives cheap a whole new meaning -- developer cost per roll is about 2.2 cents at 1:50 dilution. And yes, it still works when it gets to the color of strong coffee...
The most recent upload in my gallery was done in this developer; I'm pretty happy with it.
Canuck said:Ok, Donald. You have my attention. Please sir ... may I have more information
Donald Qualls said:I used the following:
250 ml 20% sodium sulfite solution
30 tablets @ 500 mg acetaminophen
20 g Red Devil Lye
...
BTW, if you use distilled water at $1/gallon to make up the solution, it ought to cost you around 55 cents for 250 ml, but it'll cost about $17 to get started -- $5/lb for sulfite, $5/lb for lye, and $7 for 1000 acetaminophen tablets at Costco.
srs5694 said:So are the above ingredients to make 250ml of (concentrated) developer, or some other amount?
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