MACO BLACK LIST!

[WRSchmalfuss]

Interested people can download the updated black list under www.mahn.net to order photo material through the internet.

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

I think that "Schwartze Liste" ("price lists" if I'm not mistaken) means something different in German than "blacklist" in English. A "blacklist" usually refers to a list of people who cannot be hired in some industry, usually because of their political views or union sympathies.

 

[phritz phantom]

"schwarze liste" means the same in german as "blacklist" in english. a list of something that is to be avoided. i don't know why maco called their price list that, but i assume it has something to do with BLACK and white chemistry and a certain sense of humor.

 

[vet173]

I was trying to figure out what Maco did to get blacklisted.

 

[Chazzy]

I hope there's a blacklist. It sounds exciting.

 

[Dave Wooten]

I think that "Schwartze Liste" ("price lists" if I'm not mistaken) means something different in German than "blacklist" in English. A "blacklist" usually refers to a list of people who cannot be hired in some industry, usually because of their political views or union sympathies.

or they could be skilled at counting cards

 

[WRSchmalfuss]

BLACK LIST

I think that "Schwartze Liste" ("price lists" if I'm not mistaken) means something different in German than "blacklist" in English. A "blacklist" usually refers to a list of people who cannot be hired in some industry, usually because of their political views or union sympathies.

Hello David!

Tolerance, does not seem to be your strength!

And? What is the problem, then each language has its own characteristics, in good old Germany, this term is not negatively occupied.

Cheers

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

I didn't say there was anything wrong with the term in German, just that some non-German speakers may find it bewildering when translated literally.

 

[Peter De Smidt]

David's right, and it has nothing to do with his being tolerant or not. In fact he was trying to be helpful by pointing out that you were linking your company with a negative label, which is exactly what a black list is in English.

 

[GeorgK]

I am a native german speaker, and the term "Schwarze Liste" defintively has a negative meaning in german, too.

I do not know if it is originally german, or if it made its way into the german language through lousy word-by-word translations of english texts only in the recent past. But anyway, if you talk about "putting someone / something on the black list" in german today, the intention is clear to the listener.

No doubt it was meant to be joke, but it turned out to be a mediocre one.

Anyway, it is the list of a sale of limited quantities, so it will be history in a few weeks.

Regards
Georg

 

[Roger Hicks]

David's right, and it has nothing to do with his being tolerant or not. In fact he was trying to be helpful by pointing out that you were linking your company with a negative label, which is exactly what a black list is in English.

Dear Peter,

Bear in mind that this is the company that says, "ScanFilm 400CN isn't grainy if you get the right kind of C41 processing."

Well, look at this month's Shutterbug, where Frances Schultz and I say (a) that we really like this film and (b) yes, it is grainy -- look at the accompanying scans. The comparisons can even survive magazine repro. Was our lab at fault? Who cares? We aren't alone in our assessment, so there are at least as many labs who will give you grainy, unsharp images as will give you lower-grain, sharper ones (in fact, we've not seen any of the latter). The point is that there's no real reason to buy it UNLESS you want that soft, grainy 'look'. It's rather like those wonderful ultra-fast E6 films of old but with the convenience of C41.

Cheers,

R.

 

[Antje]

I am a native german speaker, and the term "Schwarze Liste" defintively has a negative meaning in german, too.

Absolutely agree. I'm not aware of any meaning that is not negative. That is, until this thread I wasn't.

Antje

 

[Dave Wooten]

Las Vegas has had for many years a Black List and a Black Book....

Individuals with known or even in some cases suspected mob ties are persona non grata. They are not allowed in casinos....some are not allowed in the state of Nevada! Also individuals adept at counting cards in the game of Blackjack (21) can be prohibited from gambling if a casino so chooses.

In looking at the web site, the term is used for the product list...the retail price list....

In the U.S. we have a Dealers Net list....the wholesale cost and a suggested retail list, in addition there is often a MAP list....manufacturers suggested retail....( imho this is an attempt by manufacturers at price fixing-dealers discounting these items often found they could no longer supply their shelves)

 

[WRSchmalfuss]

BLACK LIST!

Interested people can download the updated black list under www.mahn.net to order photo material through the internet.

The BLACK LIST receives an permanent up-date, normally every two weeks.

So, if you are interest ed, please check with www.mahn.net

 

[Dave Wooten]

The BLACK LIST receives an permanent up-date, normally every two weeks.

So, if you are interest ed, please check with www.mahn.net[/

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How does one rotate the list to read it, also increase the font size...thanks so much.

 

[zenrhino]

In the U.S. we have a Dealers Net list....the wholesale cost and a suggested retail list, in addition there is often a MAP list....manufacturers suggested retail....( imho this is an attempt by manufacturers at price fixing-dealers discounting these items often found they could no longer supply their shelves)

And that's to say nothing of the Denied Parties List that the US Dept. of Commerce enforces. Sell anything to anyone on the list and not only are you in deep trouble, but you go on the list.

 

[Soeren]

How does one rotate the list to read it, also increase the font size...thanks so much.

Its a PDF and there is a toolbar with zoom and rotation in it.
To me is a pricelist and I can't see why its called a blacklist.
Cheers
Søren

 

[Mick Fagan]

Schwarz Geld in German means Black Money, this is a term I have heard a bit in Germany.

I was in a big photo store in Stuttgart in the basement section which was the hardware section, cameras, darkroom, projectors and like stuff.

Whilst I was in there and contemplating picking up a new R4 Leica for a friend, a very flamboyant customer walked in, wished to see the latest and new dual lens projector ( I think it was either a Rollei or Leica). Within 2 or 3 minutes he had seen what he wanted, asked for two, peeled the money required from a huge wad of rolled up banknotes, then walked out of the store with one under each arm.

The store assistant watched him walk out, as did all of the other people in the store, as he put the money into the cash register he muttered almost inaudibly, "schwarz geld". It was spoken in a caustic manner, when I got back home, I told my wife and father in-law about this. My father in-law mentioned that the terms schwarz list and schwarz geld, went hand in hand with shady dealings.

The schwarz list he was referring to, was the list of where to find goods and food after WWII in a war torn Germany, schwarz geld, was what you used, to buy the goods on the list!

Mick.

 

[Soeren]

Schwarz Geld in German means Black Money, this is a term I have heard a bit in Germany.

I was in a big photo store in Stuttgart in the basement section which was the hardware section, cameras, darkroom, projectors and like stuff.

Whilst I was in there and contemplating picking up a new R4 Leica for a friend, a very flamboyant customer walked in, wished to see the latest and new dual lens projector ( I think it was either a Rollei or Leica). Within 2 or 3 minutes he had seen what he wanted, asked for two, peeled the money required from a huge wad of rolled up banknotes, then walked out of the store with one under each arm.

The store assistant watched him walk out, as did all of the other people in the store, as he put the money into the cash register he muttered almost inaudibly, "schwarz geld". It was spoken in a caustic manner, when I got back home, I told my wife and father in-law about this. My father in-law mentioned that the terms schwarz list and schwarz geld, went hand in hand with shady dealings.

The schwarz list he was referring to, was the list of where to find goods and food after WWII in a war torn Germany, schwarz geld, was what you used, to buy the goods on the list!

Mick.

So now we have Maco selling AGFA stuff on the black market?
Cheers
Søren

 

[Dave Wooten]

And that's to say nothing of the Denied Parties List that the US Dept. of Commerce enforces. Sell anything to anyone on the list and not only are you in deep trouble, but you go on the list.

MAP....I meant to say was Manufacturer's Advertised Price....our beloved Doctar Optics were under this program in the US. I at one time distributed their sports binoculars and spotting scopes via Robb Report mag.

 

[Dave Wooten]

Its a PDF and there is a toolbar with zoom and rotation in it.
To me is a pricelist and I can't see why its called a blacklist.
Cheers
Søren

Thanks Soren...

 

[WRSchmalfuss]

Black List!

I think that "Schwartze Liste" ("price lists" if I'm not mistaken) means something different in German than "blacklist" in English. A "blacklist" usually refers to a list of people who cannot be hired in some industry, usually because of their political views or union sympathies.

Any suggestion is welcome!
In Europe, there a 120 Million speakers of the German language as mother tongue. If you have a better English name for it, it can be changed any time.

Cheers

 

[WRSchmalfuss]

THANK YOU, MACO PHOTO PRODUCTS was pleased much about the reference, we gladly learn in addition!

The new name instead black list is: MACO SPECIAL RESERVE SALE!

Regards