Love it or hate it - Arista Premium 400 ASA is it Tri-X?

[Dennis S]

What are the expiration dates you guys are seeing on the Arista Premium 400 boxes?

09/2013 on the 400 &
07/2012 on the 100 both the 100' rolls

 

[angelopartemi]

It definitely does not push as well as tri-x. The tones are no where near as nice, and it's far grainier. For 2.50 it is hard to beat though.

 

[MartinP]

It definitely does not push as well as tri-x. The tones are no where near as nice, and it's far grainier. For 2.50 it is hard to beat though.

Perhaps you mean the Arista EDU400 film? That is not TriX but Fomapan and is quite different to the TriX. Shoot it at about 250 - or 400 when using a speed-increasing developer, such as Microphen.

 

[McErland]

I got the premium 400 as well, and can't tell any difference between it and Tri-X. Even with shipping to Sweden this is a real bargain! Payed about $40 for ten rolls and shipping, and one roll Tri-X in sweden is about 9-10 dollars these days..

 

[Roger Cole]

The premium is Tri-X. It is identical in Diafine and nothing else is.

 

[michaelbsc]

Yeah, this got rehashed pretty thoroughly when it was released.

While there4's no way to compare lot numbers by the rebate markings I would bet a C-note that they're even cut from the same master rolls.

 

[cmacd123]

Yeah, this got rehashed pretty thoroughly when it was released.

While there4's no way to compare lot numbers by the rebate markings I would bet a C-note that they're even cut from the same master rolls.

The emulsion numbers are in the same series as the Tri-x. Both went up about the same amount with the different dates I have purchased. When the folks at Freestyle said it was being discontinued a bought a large quantity to stock up.

 

[Ektagraphic]

When the folks at Freestyle said it was being discontinued a bought a large quantity to stock up.

It's quite unfortunate. I heard the same from them when on the phone recently. Perhaps it has to do with the transition to Kodak Alaris.

 

[cmacd123]

It's quite unfortunate. I heard the same from them when on the phone recently. Perhaps it has to do with the transition to Kodak Alaris.

it is possible that EK did not want to leave loose ends that might have to have special cases in the transition contract. Who knows if the new management will be open to doing such private label products in the future.

 

[NedL]

... When the folks at Freestyle said it was being discontinued a bought a large quantity to stock up.

The last few bulk rolls they had in stock are now sitting in my freezer, along with a few purchased earlier. I'm a slowpoke film shooter, so I've probably got enough to last...

 

[erikg]

Freestyle always finds any deals to be had, it may come round again with "new" Kodak.

 

[asamimasa]

picked up 40 rolls of premium in fear of discontinuation, won't be needing to go shopping for anything 400 for a while...

 

[Roger Cole]

I just today loaded my last roll of 120 Tri-X and need to order more. Wish they'd get these kinds of deals on 120 film!

 

[NedL]

I just today loaded my last roll of 120 Tri-X and need to order more. Wish they'd get these kinds of deals on 120 film!

I just today noticed I'm down to my last 2 rolls of 120 Tri-X. I love 6x9 and 8 frames per roll, but it has gotten more expensive. Just a year ago, those 5-packs were under $20 if you kept an eye out... still, it's time to stock up again!

 

[Ektagraphic]

I just today loaded my last roll of 120 Tri-X and need to order more. Wish they'd get these kinds of deals on 120 film!

If only we could bulk load 120 film!

 

[erikg]

If only we could bulk load 120 film!

It's too bad 70mm didn't become the standard. The paper backing is so unnecessary in modern cameras.

 

[Roger Cole]

If only we could bulk load 120 film!

Eh, if it saved much. I don't usually find the savings worth it in 35mm. I have (most of) a bulk roll of the Arista Premium branded Tri-X, but particularly with its pricing it just didn't save enough to pay me to bother.

It used to save a lot, doesn't seem so great any more.

 

[daleeman]

Seeing this thread come back to life, it made me load up some AP in my old IIIF range finder. Dad would be proud to know his camera is out shooting. I'll send him some prints once I get inspired to captured something.

Going to shoot this roll straight at 400 and run it in Diafine. Usually I rate it much higher, but I am looking to see how it looks.

Saw reference to wishing it was made in 120, me too. 120 prices do not seem to anything except climb higher.

 

[Ektagraphic]

Roger- I am currently giving Ultrafine's Xtreme 400 a try. It costs me about $30 for 100ft. I find that pretty cost effective. But when it comes to a film like Tri-X, I can certainly see what you mean about the bulk loading not being overly cost effective


Glad that we got you to go shooting daleeman!

 

[Roger Cole]

Yeah, that would be. I find that I just rarely shoot black and white in 35mm anymore. Mainly I do so for very low light using TMZ (while I can still get it) or Deltra 3200. I may move exclusively to the latter even while I can still get TMZ, since I also shoot it in 120.

 

[NedL]

Roger, I agree the savings was modest with bulk. For me it is convenient to freeze those nice sealed metal cans, and I like to spool up different amounts of film depending on what I'm doing. And if I spool up 20 or 24 frames, I'm saving even less since there is more leader. So the choice wasn't really about cost.

Every time I see a post of yours on APUG it reminds me that I want to try Tri-X in diafine someday! Cheers.

 

[Roger Cole]

Totally agree about versatility to load short rolls. That IS nice.

And I post about lots of other things. Tri-X does work well in Diafine though, but not as well as it used to, especially under tungsten light where it emulsions of previous years looked good at 1600 but today's is more like 1000.


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[NedL]

Thanks for the tip, I'll remember!

 

[wblynch]

Film is easier to hide in the freezer if it's in those little 100ft tins.

 

[michaelbsc]

Film is easier to hide in the freezer if it's in those little 100ft tins.

Ain't it though? My life has been so busy the past few years that I've got a freezer full of expired stuff instead of used up stuff. At least it's in the freezer. And mostly low speed, so fogging isn't much issue.