Super Ikonta 533/16 or 534/16
Thanks.Zeiss being Zeiss, there should be some in Europe.I would second this. Bought one just for fun. Superb image quality.
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The Sekonic EM...I don't like this flimsy piece of plastic at all and would be happy to pay 2x as much, had it a better look and feel.
I have to agree with John, the Sekonic 208 meter is a solid functional meter that feels really (really!) nice in the hand, there is a reason it has been around for so long. However, it does not have the sleek look when fitted on a shoe, that space belongs to the Voightlander VC meters, which are also solid functional meters (and made out of aluminium instead of plastic to fit the OP's preference). They were designed to be on top of the camera, and there are many Asian copies, so you can select one that fits your aesthetics. The Voightlander VCII is a solid meter that looks good on top of these old cameras.I think you are condemning things that are tried and true because you have no experience with them. Looks aren't everything! The Sekonic meter is ten times better than almost all the MR meters Leica made for their M series cameras. So, you want a fancy chrome finish meter that won't stay working then go for it. I have an old plastic Sekonic studio meter that's probably 50+ years old and it still works perfect, even after being dropped several times. Functionality is what I'm after and not looks. Oh, it's nice to have a good looking camera or piece of equipment, but that is not the most important thing. As far as the bellows go on the Mamiya or even Zeiss folders, they all can be replaced.
I have to agree with John, the Sekonic meter is a solid functional meter that feels really (really!) nice in the hand, there is a reason it has been around for so long. However, it does not have the sleek look when fitted on a shoe, that space belongs to the Voightlander VC meters, which are also solid functional meters (and made out of aluminium instead of plastic to fit the OP's preference). They were designed to be on top of the camera, and there are many Asian copies, so you can select one that fits your aesthetics. The Voightlander VCII is a solid meter that looks good on top of these old cameras.
I also have the Gossen Digisix meter, which is tiny and portable, but does feel as good in the hand as the Sekonic, and although it looks better on a shoe, it's still a clunky add-on like the Sekonic. It's also plastic (I don't have aproblkem with that, but it seems the OP does). Although the Gossen is smaller and lighter, the Sekonic was in my pocket more. However, I've mostly switched to a Sekonic 308, which I would happlily recommend if you want a separate digital hand held meter.
I had the Sekonic and did not like it.
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I had the Sekonic and did not like it.
What a surprise....
I hope you find a cheap folding camera that meets your standards.
I think you are condemning things that are tried and true because you have no experience with them.
Why do you think I have no experience with the Sekonic?
What is a Sekonic EM meter? I'm not at all familiar with that meter. All I know is that the more expensive Sekonic meters are extremely good meters and built as well as any other light meter. Even Gossen had some rather cheap meters. They worked well, but weren't built as robust as their more expensive line. Heck, 35mm cameras were the same way. You had your entry level Minolta camera and then you went up the line. The further you went, the less you had left in your wallet.
Once again, there are other meters you can choose from. Being plastic is not a good enough reason for not liking the Sekonic L-208, it definitely won't melt away in the sunlight, and it's very lightweight, adding virtually no weight to the overall weight of the camera when it's clipped on. Mine came with a 3 position foot (actually 5 positions, because the foot bracket can be turned 180 degrees), so it can be positioned where you want it placed to avoid covering something vital, or cramming up against a raised shoulder on the top plate.
Whatever you get, a new meter would be best, to get a warranty, and accuracy for low light settings. Cheap used meters are not worth taking a chance on. I have heaps of those and only one gets used, a well looked after Zeiss Ikon Ikophot, but even then it's not all that accurate after all these years since it was new.
Reminds me of Ricky Nelson's song Garden Party. Lyrics, "You can't please everyone. So, you got to please yourself"!
Well, that's a good reason not to like them. They always worked well for me.Hi
I had the Sekonic and did not like it.
Reliability of new stock old school meters
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Well, that's a good reason not to like them. They always worked well for me.
Then I'd suggest having a look at the newest Reveni Lab LUMO meter, it's all aluminium, reflected and incident, very compact, very nice in the hand. They are made down the street from me. But they are not meant to be mounted on the camera - they make some camera top meters too, but those are mostly plastic (small was the design goal). For camera mounted, I still recommend the Voightlander VC-II - low profile, aluminium, reliable, nice to use.
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