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My guess is that if it has worked then this means it will always work. I cannot see what might occur with the negative that was OK say maybe 5-6 years ago when you used your solution that will not be OK later on. Whatever happens to C41 negs as they age is, I'd have thought, no more likely to happen to your negs than any other OK C41 negs developed by other means.Despite it works for me I am no expert to truly validate it. I hope somebody will throw in their chemistry expertise especially about C-41 chemical from theoretical or practical point of views about it.
@ David Lyga @ Bormental@Jeannine This is not Twitter. You aren't winning any friends by dropping sexist/racist/whatever bombs at the slightest disagreement.
@ David Lyga @ Bormental
I might just stand by and keep silent, yet...
So the very same words/expressions are gentlemanly when written by D.L., and become sexist when repeated (with emphasis) by Jeannine.
Nothing to do with a disagreement liters vs gallons, or whatever.
Make no mistake, being labeled a "sexist" is a career-ending event.
Yes and no.I'm afraid David won't answer anytime soon as he quit Photrio for good. He said he felt unjustly treated.
Exiting posts are generally against the rules and are locked and/or deleted.
Here is the legalese - from the Terms and Rules link at the bottom of the page: http://www.photrio.ltd/tos.htmlSince you mentioned rules, can you kindly point me to the page that documents all or most important rules of photrio? I tried searching and I couldn't find any such page.
Thank you to the few people who took the time to extend warm greetings. I special thank you to Pentax, for providing useful & insightful information. I appreciate you taking the time to share knowledge rather than looking for an opportunity to shame my question. Yes, the measurements of A,B & C are indeed helpful. They are also clearly labeled and easily measured. So forgive me if I took the answer coupled with, "do the math," as less than helpful. Not extending a basic salutation, ignoring my query and answering with basic measurements that anyone could obtain, is insulting. You made your archaic position towards women quite clear in your later posts. My mistake if I thought of this as a friendly community to share knowledge. Warm salutations are not a requirement but it certainly creates an environment conducive to sharing information. Now I realize this is yet another boys club of ego, hand holding where grown men think it is acceptable to regard a woman they have never meant as, "dear and sweetie." As a younger person I have not had the luxury of spending my entire life shooting film. It is intimidating enough to reach out to a group of professionals. I am shocked that David and his cronies think this is acceptable behavior. Amateurs be very careful of your wording or your question will be disregarded. Maybe I should change my screen name to Joe to avoid these sexist, waste of time replies in the future? Is it too much to ask that my gender not be judged when submitting replies? Or is it too hard to extend that basic respect?
I am no stranger to this sexist, shallow type of behaviour. It does disappoint me that in this day in age, on a forum I respected, I would be debased as an emotional woman and not treated as a fellow being interested in the craft of photography.
I can't help but wonder what the tone of your reply would have been if I was a male? If my inquiry was so beneath you, why even bother to respond? If you spent a fraction of the energy you did in your last message, we wouldn't be here.
David, it is 2020, it is extremely rude to call a grown woman dear, dame etc. I realize you know this and intended to be insulting. Honestly, you are only embarrassing yourself. If this is the type of sexist replies that I can expect, I will go to the many other forums available in the future. I'd much rather be in the darkroom than defending my gender.
I take extreme offense at being called dear and quite basically this entire message.
"Thank you for having the tenacity (and intellect) to see things rationally. I regularly scan these posts and when I see a query about some factual information that I might be able to disseminate, I quickly try to readily comply, Maybe this time I had failed to be sufficiently politically correct. Again, you got it right, not my detractors who wanted to see something nefarious.
But the real reason for my reply to you Bormental was to state that I gave information for 25 US Gallons, not liters, (which you stated). (Please re-read my post.) Again, the inquirer wanted factual, quantitative information and that is precisely what I did and with no nefarious intentions. The fact that I did not sugar coat it 'for the lady' is going to have to be something that you will have to deal with, It was not meant as rude, but, I will say that in all the years of posting, I have never been received by such forwardness as this dame.
That said, think what you wish, and if the mods wish to cater to this party because she is new and fem, so be it. I feel no guilt for this or for the fact that I have dared never to use a starter in the process. If this woman finds that foul please tell her that there is far more foul in her world in her neck of the woods. If that upsets this 'Jean', so be it, as there are worse things to get upset over.
Now, mods, do your catering ... as you are obligated to castigate me. - David Lyga" Quoted from David Lyga
In the future, David, kindly ignore a question you deem beneath your precious intellect. There are clearly many here who are just as capable of helping but also know what tact and respect are.
Kind Regards,
The Dear, new & fem, lady,
"Jean"
I just developed some films and would like to share a few pics for the purpose of validation of the trick I played to the C-41 process.
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