LomoKino

[arealitystudios]

Actually that tells you a whole lot right there. One is about equipment integrity and quality and one is about being hip/cool and the social element around the product.

I'm not anti toy camera I shoot Holga, Diana and such but the hipster movement around it is seriously irritating sometimes.

eh. It doesn't bother me at all really. It's funny... but it doesn't bother me. After all, there are a lot of products out there that are marketed as trendy and fashionable well beyond their intended function. Take wrist watches for example. I'm of the age where if you were in your early teens you absolutey had to have a Swatch wrist watch. Whether or not it could tell accurate time was irrelevent.

Maybe it's because I do a lot of graphic design but I think the books and marketing material that come with "Lomography" products compliment the unique and quirky designs of the cameras quite well. If you take the quality of materials out of the picture the design behind a lot of toy camera products, like the LomoKino, is really quite remarkable.

Besides, if they didn't market these items as "cool" and "hip" there is just no damn way they could compete with digital cameras.

 

[Joe VanCleave]

I don't see toy film cameras as hipster cool. iPhones, iPads, Android phones - these are the current fads. Anything film is retro, but not hipster cool; if it were, Kodak wouldn't be on the slides, and Apple wouldn't have $120 billion in cash.

I do admire Lomography for how they've managed to help keep film use alive. In my town, the easiest way to get 36 exposure rolls of 100 ISO color negative film is Lomo film at Urban Outfitters. Forget Fuji or Kodak at the big box stores, they only have ISO400 in 24 exposure rolls.

I can't quite understand the film snobbery on sites like this one, and RFF, and to some extent the LF forum, where people are so vocally down on Lomography, then out of the other side of their mouths come laments about the demise of film and film cameras. You'd think people would be smart enough to figure out that film photography users need to unite forces and support whomever is making film and film equipment, Lomo included.

~Joe

 

[Discoman]

I don't see toy film cameras as hipster cool. iPhones, iPads, Android phones - these are the current fads. Anything film is retro, but not hipster cool; if it were, Kodak wouldn't be on the slides, and Apple wouldn't have $120 billion in cash.
~Joe

Hipsters and most people use photos as just a way to share there day. A photo is taken, tested or pinned or whatever is the newest thing, then forgotten. Kodak has always been about the Kodak moment-photos as lasting memories, and that isn't how the market is now. Besides, Kodak invented digital and has been one of the big gets drivers behind digital in both R&D and in products. Many digital cameras contain Kodak sensors, from your basic point and shoot up to five figure medium formats. Not only that, but they have the absolutely amazing motion picture stocks, and are the only supplier for IMAX camera and projector film.

It wasn't hipsters that had anything to do with the demise of Kodak, it was everyone else. Screw what kind of camera you use-be it toy, LF, or digital, most everyone here and at DPUG are concerned with making lasting images, and as such, are in the minority.