LF suggestion

[Old-N-Feeble]

Lighten up, Rob. Your posts indicate you have a chip on your shoulder.

I have... ONE... HUNDRED... BILLION... DOLLARS. So I'm going to buy a Bugatti Veyron because I can afford it and want one. You can criticize me all you want... but you have no chance against me on the track... unless you're much better than me... easily done though.

 

[RobC]

Lighten up, Rob. Your posts indicate you have a chip on your shoulder.

I have... ONE... HUNDRED... BILLION... DOLLARS. So I'm going to buy a Bugatti Veyron because I can afford it and want one. You can criticize me all you want... but you have no chance against me on the track... unless you're much better than me... easily done though.

You're fantasizing

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

You're fantasizing

Aren't I though... 'tis true, 'tis true... just as it is with you, sir.

To presume we know the motives of another person with minimal input... why golly-gee... ain't that fantasizing?

 

[Sirius Glass]

:munch: :munch: :munch: :munch: :munch:

 

[RobC]

Aren't I though... 'tis true, 'tis true... just as it is with you, sir.

To presume we know the motives of another person with minimal input... why golly-gee... ain't that fantasizing?

We'll see won't we. Or then again maybe we won't.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If I were going to spend a lot of money on an LF body, I would want shifts, movements, all the bells and whistles, and if the body is made of wood I would want an great looking wood such as cherry.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

We'll see won't we. Or then again maybe we won't.

Point taken, and one of us will be seen a fool once the OP has his/her decision. FWIW, I don't mind being seen as a fool. I was married fifteen years and am quite accustomed to it. But don't you dare call me one 'cuz you ain't my bit... best friend... though I like you just fine.

 

[RobC]

I don't need to, you've already done it for me.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

I don't need to, you've already done it for me.

Could be... but let's allow others to decide. Agreed?

 

[RobC]

You want a Linhof Master Technica Classic which has a rangefinder and cammed lenses linked to it plus Grip so you you can use it hand held and focus without looking at GG. You don't need to use movements if you don't want to.
Its not cheap and its not the lightest of cameras but it is very "portable" and with its clamshell design will fold away with upto 150mm lens on it.

In short its the rolls royce of field cameras. I hope you have deep pockets or did you forget to say you want cheap too.

http://linhof.com/master-technika-classic/

p.s. Sorry but no Cherrywood

 

[Richard Man]

One of the joy of working with LF is the ground glass. I can look at them all day I shoot a lot of 4x5 and 6x17. Used to have handheld cameras including the Goersi 4x5PS and the fabled Chamonix Saber, but in the end, ground glass rules...

 

[Alan Gales]

One of the joy of working with LF is the ground glass. I can look at them all day I shoot a lot of 4x5 and 6x17. Used to have handheld cameras including the Goersi 4x5PS and the fabled Chamonix Saber, but in the end, ground glass rules...

That's one of the reasons that I love 8x10, the huge ground glass.

That's a real nice shot, Richard.

 

[Richard Man]

That's one of the reasons that I love 8x10, the huge ground glass.

That's a real nice shot, Richard.

Yes, I am toying the idea of saving up for a 8x19, not that I will use it much, I think, but just the occasional shoot with 8x10 color films sound wonderful....

Thanks for the kind words.

 

[rowghani]

yup great shot. what are your people with LF experience on the jump from 6x7 to 4x5? Not that big of a difference? Ideally id love to print my stuff as big as possible. Previously I've been printing 16x20 from 35mm, but now exclusively shoot MF.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

I agree with others who suggest the biggest reason to jump from 6x7cm to 4x5in is for full camera movements. If you were jumping from 6x4.5cm to 4x5 that is a greater 'quality' difference when making large prints.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I agree with others who suggest the biggest reason to jump from 6x7cm to 4x5in is for full camera movements. If you were jumping from 6x4.5cm to 4x5 that is a greater 'quality' difference when making large prints.

Full camera movements are great, however I find them hard to use when I am shooting 4"x5" handheld.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

Of course, that's true Sirius but the OP is using a tripod.

 

[removed account4]

I've been reading and I don't understand the use of 'movements' on LF cameras. Why is that useful? Thanks.

camera movements are used to "correct" before you depress the shutter.
if you have your tripod extended high and still can't get what you want in the view
you can use rise to eek a bit more of the image out of "image circle " or shift side to side
and it does the same thing. if you have to tilt the camera back you can adjust the film plane
to straighten out the lines so they are perpendicular again ( the front standard too if you want to )
you can change what you have in focus and what you don't like mark tucker does with his "plunger cam"
and you can make things in focus that woudln't necessarily be in focus if you don't have a small enough aperture
by changing around how the front and rear standards are situated so you can have extreme foreground "to infinity and beyond" in focus
if you are using a press style camera, it isn't hard to do rise /shift handheld, you just raise or slide the standard but the other stuff
takes a bit of futzing around and it really isn't too easy to hand hold a view or field camera that isn't made to be handheld.

years ago before film became so high-tech, so sharp and resolved there was a huge difference between 120 film and sheet film
now unless you require the movements of the large format camera, or you yearn to use old junk store brass lenses, magnifying glasses
or vintage optics the main reason to use a LF camera ( unless you are making 30x40 enlargements ) is to have a good time.
not saying using a MF or small format camera isn't fun, but it is a different "fun" than larger format cameras.
a lot of large format users use it for bragging rights ( my camera is bigger than yours and my lens cost 10,000USD ) or the zen thing ( slow meditative photography )
or just because they are bored with film so they use a LF camera to do some olde fashioned process that requires a big negative
( unless they want to make an enlarged ortho film negative or hybrid negative the big negative skips the step ) ...
there are lots of different cameras out there and reasons to use them, some old, some new but they are all basically the same, a box and lens
good luck !
john